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May 05, 2011 20:33 |  #1936

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Not a fan of large zooms. I would actually recommend going wide with a 16-35 and then long with a 70-200. Then you'll have your 50 in the middle. If you cannot afford it all at once then build up slowly. I wouldn't waste the money on a mega-zoom with a variable aperture.
The 50 1.8D in my experience is a bit soft wide open. There is a new 50 1.8G being released next month, hold out for that one.

Well, I'm planning on selling the 18-55/55-200 to fund new lenses. Although I wouldn't be able to fetch much more than $100 for the 18/55, so it might be worth keeping.
I'm stuck on versatility, as a lot of my shooting tends to be just throughout the day, messing around with friends, hiking, etc. And changing lenses in those situation will be just a giant pain in the arse, can you see why the "meg-zooms" appeal?

But further research is starting to tell me exactly that, mega-zoom lenses aren't exactly a good choice... My biggest issue is cost, followed closely by needing a versatile lens...

As for the new 50, I hadn't heard that, and I was unaware of the pending new release. I imagine the new lens will be substantially more expensive?

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I, like you, am in university, so I get the bit on costs. If I were you, I'd look at purchasing the 50 for portraiture, but TBH, it sounds, ,for more of your needs, the 35mm 1.8 is a better choice. With cars, you want something wider, generally, so you can get it with the 18-55, but the 35mm is going to be a lot sharper and better with color. You sound like you want to shoot all kinds of things, which isn't very budget friendly ("everything else"?), but, fortunately, none of the top ones have to have a lens with super fast AF. The Tamron and the Nikon are not very different in terms of AF speed that it'll make a significant difference for you I don't think.

I started with a D40 + 18-55mm in the summer of '09. Right away, as a college student, I knew I had to get paying gigs to support what I wanted; better equipment. I bought a 50mm 1.8 (which I still have), and did a ton of portraits. Everywhere. All the time. It was all about versatility for me, which, from the looks of it, doesn't sound like a 50, but the ability to control the DOF that much made such a difference. The next bit of kit were cheap flashes (Vivitar 285HV's), and I was really able to push my photography. There's not much you can't do with a DSLR, 50mm 1.8, and a couple of vivitars. That said, if you push yourself, and you're a little crazy, you can end up with a typical college kid $2000 car with $30,000 worth of equipment in it ;)

I was actually just looking at the 35mm f/1.8. Both the 35 and the 50 only have a 44* max viewing angle. Is that really that "wide"? My 18-55 is capable of a 71* angle at 18mm. Also, I can't do with the inability to auto-focus with the 50 on my D60, so as of now it's out of the question, although apparently there is a new 50 being released soon, possibly with the ability to autofocus on my body?
Also looking at flashes, eventually I'd like to pick up the SB600 or SB700, definitely in the future!
The more I research, the more difficult it is becoming to decide on a lense!

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Your subjects are so wide you need all the major lenses really - wide, standard, zoom, macro. I think you need to tell us what you mostly shoot, or mostly want to shoot, rather than "everything".

What does your current equipment not do that you need it to do?

I know, I know, but all photographers run into the same problem do they not? The top three of my list, are definitely the three subjects most commonly shot.
My current equipment "does" everything, all the clarity/sharpness of my automotive photography is definitely lacking... I just want to do everything better :)




  
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May 05, 2011 21:17 as a reply to  @ Max713's post |  #1937

Hey Nikoners, Help pull me into your camp more ;)


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May 05, 2011 21:19 |  #1938

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I know, I know, but all photographers run into the same problem do they not? The top three of my list, are definitely the three subjects most commonly shot.
My current equipment "does" everything, all the clarity/sharpness of my automotive photography is definitely lacking... I just want to do everything better :)

They all use different lenses. You don't sound like you have the budget for them all.

Not sure why clarity's not so good. Can you post a link to a full res, processed image?

I have a 16-35 F4 VR, 24-70 F2.8, and 70-200 F2.8 VR II. I don't think there's much I can't shoot with those. I'll get the 50 F1.4 G once it's available. They're not cheap though, but I had to have good equipment (I shoot many, many weddings).


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May 05, 2011 21:21 |  #1939

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Hey Nikoners, Help pull me into your camp more ;)

eh CANON SUCK at AF while Nikon is very good :lol:


wait what was your problem again? AF right? :lol: ;) just messing with ya hehe


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May 05, 2011 21:21 |  #1940

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Well, I'm planning on selling the 18-55/55-200 to fund new lenses. Although I wouldn't be able to fetch much more than $100 for the 18/55, so it might be worth keeping.
I'm stuck on versatility, as a lot of my shooting tends to be just throughout the day, messing around with friends, hiking, etc. And changing lenses in those situation will be just a giant pain in the arse, can you see why the "meg-zooms" appeal?

My personal approach has always been a mix of zooms and primes, I usually have a "general purpose" zoom for when im in a "I dont know what I'll be photographing" situation, it usually covers from wide to telephoto, On Nikon, this lens would be a 16-85 on DX or 24-120 on FX

While neither is particularly fast, both are very sharp and have VR which is generally more useful -to me personally-

As for the new 50, I hadn't heard that, and I was unaware of the pending new release. I imagine the new lens will be substantially more expensive?

$220 and from the looks, its a bargain, The 35mm f/1.8 is great too by the way...


I know, I know, but all photographers run into the same problem do they not? The top three of my list, are definitely the three subjects most commonly shot.
My current equipment "does" everything, all the clarity/sharpness of my automotive photography is definitely lacking... I just want to do everything better :)

Look at the next few months and etc, Generally this is the time of year I do most of my shooting, the majority of which is wildlife and macro, So to me? a 105mm f/2.8 VR Micro-Nikkor would be at the top of my list, Followed quickly by the 16-85 and the 300mm f/4, if i had to sacrifice anything I'd probubly sacrifice the Micro-Nikkor first though due to its cost and the fact I could likely make do with the 300mm f/4 and 16-85 for the time being..if i had to


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May 05, 2011 21:36 |  #1941

what do you guys think about the 24 2.8 on the d7k?


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May 05, 2011 22:31 |  #1942

Max713 wrote in post #12355529 (external link)
I know, I know, but all photographers run into the same problem do they not? The top three of my list, are definitely the three subjects most commonly shot.
My current equipment "does" everything, all the clarity/sharpness of my automotive photography is definitely lacking... I just want to do everything better :)

First off, the new 50mm 1.8 will AF on your D60. The 35mm will be wider than the 50, but nowhere hear as wide as the 18 on your kit lens. "To do everything better", you're looking at investing a significant amount of money. Last year I went to Thailand for 6 weeks with a 50mm only though. It's a great lens; wait until the 2nd week in June for the new 50mm. It will have an MSRP of about $270 and be sold for $220.

You're going to have a hard time finding a new SB-600. Probably used either; it's pretty highly sought after.

Most people start off shooting everything, and invest in more expensive/higher quality glass when they develop a style/have preferences for certain focal lengths. Some people still have to have a wide range, but to get better quality is expensive. I have had to invest thousands for a 14-24, 24-70, and 70-200, as well as 24mm 1.4, 35mm 1.8, 50mm x 2, 60mm 2.8, 85 1.4, and 135 f/2. That's not even getting into wildlife/long telephotos, and it's over $10K. You build it a step at a time, do a lot of jobs, and earn it while you're eating a lot of ramen. The Tamron and Nikon are better than your 18-55 + 55-200, and considered good for versatility, but you're just not going to get the quality of a $2000+ lens. That said, thank goodness I'm on a college sports team, because I'm carrying a ton of lenses with me all the time, I endure that "pain in the ass" because I want the quality.


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May 05, 2011 22:33 |  #1943

mtiotuico wrote in post #12355911 (external link)
what do you guys think about the 24 2.8 on the d7k?

I haven't used the 24 2.8, but it's a nice perspective on the D7000/crop sensor for street photography when I use the 24 1.4. I haven't used it much on the D7000, but that's one of my favorite focal lengths for crop (35mm on full frame is great, IMO)


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May 05, 2011 22:41 |  #1944

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They all use different lenses. You don't sound like you have the budget for them all.

Not sure why clarity's not so good. Can you post a link to a full res, processed image?

I have a 16-35 F4 VR, 24-70 F2.8, and 70-200 F2.8 VR II. I don't think there's much I can't shoot with those. I'll get the 50 F1.4 G once it's available. They're not cheap though, but I had to have good equipment (I shoot many, many weddings).

If only I could afford all those lenses... :drooling in corner:




  
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May 05, 2011 22:49 |  #1945

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If only I could afford all those lenses... :drooling in corner:

he is a shooting professional though... so don't be sad :D

I have been eying that 16-35mm ever since he switched, I think we switched around the same time... I was just a month or so ahead of him I think...and until now I haven't bought it still.

just be patient :lol:


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May 05, 2011 22:51 |  #1946

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My personal approach has always been a mix of zooms and primes, I usually have a "general purpose" zoom for when im in a "I dont know what I'll be photographing" situation, it usually covers from wide to telephoto, On Nikon, this lens would be a 16-85 on DX or 24-120 on FX
While neither is particularly fast, both are very sharp and have VR which is generally more useful -to me personally-
That's funny, I just started looking into a "mid-zoom" lens like a 16-85 or similar. What kind of quality could I expect from a 16-85 f/3.5-4.5?



$220 and from the looks, its a bargain, The 35mm f/1.8 is great too by the way...
I'd really like to hear more on the 35, it's grabbing my interest, then again there's the new 50 coming out. The more I research, the harder it is to choose!


Look at the next few months and etc, Generally this is the time of year I do most of my shooting, the majority of which is wildlife and macro, So to me? a 105mm f/2.8 VR Micro-Nikkor would be at the top of my list, Followed quickly by the 16-85 and the 300mm f/4, if i had to sacrifice anything I'd probubly sacrifice the Micro-Nikkor first though due to its cost and the fact I could likely make do with the 300mm f/4 and 16-85 for the time being..if i had to

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First off, the new 50mm 1.8 will AF on your D60. The 35mm will be wider than the 50, but nowhere hear as wide as the 18 on your kit lens. "To do everything better", you're looking at investing a significant amount of money. Last year I went to Thailand for 6 weeks with a 50mm only though. It's a great lens; wait until the 2nd week in June for the new 50mm. It will have an MSRP of about $270 and be sold for $220.
I just love the idea of a nice wide, huge max aperture, fixed lens! Decisions...


You're going to have a hard time finding a new SB-600. Probably used either; it's pretty highly sought after.
I wasn't aware of that, do they not produce that flash any longer?

Most people start off shooting everything, and invest in more expensive/higher quality glass when they develop a style/have preferences for certain focal lengths. Some people still have to have a wide range, but to get better quality is expensive. I have had to invest thousands for a 14-24, 24-70, and 70-200, as well as 24mm 1.4, 35mm 1.8, 50mm x 2, 60mm 2.8, 85 1.4, and 135 f/2. That's not even getting into wildlife/long telephotos, and it's over $10K. You build it a step at a time, do a lot of jobs, and earn it while you're eating a lot of ramen. The Tamron and Nikon are better than your 18-55 + 55-200, and considered good for versatility, but you're just not going to get the quality of a $2000+ lens. That said, thank goodness I'm on a college sports team, because I'm carrying a ton of lenses with me all the time, I endure that "pain in the ass" because I want the quality.

Ya, I knew this was an expensive hobby... but it keeps reminding me as I look through thousands upon thousands of dollars in lenses...




  
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May 05, 2011 23:00 |  #1947

Max if you are on a crop 35mm will come out almost equivalent to 50mm on FF...

and if I own a crop, I would consider the 35mm as well over the 50mm :D

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May 05, 2011 23:01 |  #1948

How bout a sample from the 35mm f/1.8?

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May 05, 2011 23:01 |  #1949

There's nothing wrong with super zooms for certain applications. If you're travelling for example and don't want multiple lenses, or maybe you'll be in places where changing lenses might be very difficult (such as a desert, with sand and wind, or maybe on a boat with spray blowing around). Just as there's nothing wrong with one of the "compacts" with super zooms fitted. As with all things, it's horses for courses. A friend who has really expensive camera gear (Hasselblad expensive) nonetheless uses an SX10 when he's out and about hiking in Inca-land.

A lens, and indeed a camera, is just a tool - it really comes down to what you want to do with it.


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May 05, 2011 23:50 |  #1950

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Max if you are on a crop 35mm will come out almost equivalent to 50mm on FF...

and if I own a crop, I would consider the 35mm as well over the 50mm :D

just saying man :D

Great point, would anybody say the 35 is a better lens than the 50 other than focal length?

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How bout a sample from the 35mm f/1.8?

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See, this is what I'm looking for! Perfect crisp and clear! Doesn't get much better than that... I can only dream of the shots I could come up with that lens, just after the sun goes down, in the perfect location. Man if I could have had that lens for this shot!

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There's nothing wrong with super zooms for certain applications. If you're travelling for example and don't want multiple lenses, or maybe you'll be in places where changing lenses might be very difficult (such as a desert, with sand and wind, or maybe on a boat with spray blowing around). Just as there's nothing wrong with one of the "compacts" with super zooms fitted. As with all things, it's horses for courses. A friend who has really expensive camera gear (Hasselblad expensive) nonetheless uses an SX10 when he's out and about hiking in Inca-land.

A lens, and indeed a camera, is just a tool - it really comes down to what you want to do with it.

You're exactly right, and if I only used this camera while hiking or other outdoor activities, I would just buy a mega-zoom. But there's so much more I'd like to accomplish, and so much more quality I'd like to achieve!




  
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