KenjiS wrote in post #13892941
My biggest complaint with the 580EXII is that i physically cannot work the dial on it at all

also the menus and everything about it are a lot more confusing than the much more simple Nikon units...
Not saying the Canon system is really "terrible" but I like how the Nikon works more..Also again..their Macro flash is nicer than the Canon and a LOT cheaper
I rarely needed to use the dial on the 580 II. I just turned it on and controlled it from the camera.
I don't find Nikon significantly simpler. While the Nikon system has plenty going for it it's not all "the grass is greener". The physical controls and UI aren't as intuitive, and the camera menus are extensive and slightly confusing, though once you have them set up they're fine. On the upside the focus system works very well, the flash system requires less messing about with, and they're generally well built and robust. Just don't expect rainbows and dancing unicorns, they're tools with their fair share of quirks but they generally work well.