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Feb 28, 2012 11:55 |  #4921

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Peter, I see you have a 100-400L. For me the biggest weakness in the Nikon line-up is the lack of a high quality, affordable lens to compete with Canon's 100-400. Sure the 200-400 f/4VR II is excellent, but it's also $7000! Also, IMO the Nikon 80-400 f/4.5-5.6 isn't in the same league IQ wise as the Canon 100-400 and neither are the Sigma options.

If the Nikon 300mm f/4 with a 1.4X t-con produces good IQ it might be the best economical option to get to 400+mm. AF might be a bit slow though.

I'm back after a night's sleep! Yes, I haven't heard of anything comparable either. It wouldn't trouble me for a while, as I use the FF camera for wide angle stuff and keep the crop for telephoto. That's currently the 5D (with 12-24 and 24-105) and 7D (with 100-400). I'd stick to that with the D800E, using a new Sigma 12-24 and the Nikkor 24-120. But in due course it would probably become an irritant.

I'll tell you another thing about the Nikkor 80-400. Not only may it be inferior to the 100-400L in IQ, it's also inferior in weather sealing. I know of three 80-400s here that have succombed to internal mould, and every one of them was purchased more recently than my 100-400. One owner is so fed up with it (because Nikon won't help with repair or replacement by even one dollar) that he said he's switching to Canon - purely on the strength of my 100-400L!


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Feb 28, 2012 12:55 |  #4922

peterbj7 wrote in post #13980913 (external link)
50-500. It has a pretty good name, and the pictures I've seen posted here in the relevant thread seem pretty good. Of course, being Sigma it will probably be necessary to get it calibrated, but the potential seems good. I'm just wondering whether a 36mp sensor might show up whatever flaws it has?

IMHO the 50-500 and 100-400 are optically equal, I owned both, I tested both on my 7D (Which pixel density wise is more demanding that the D800), I'd gladly take the Sigma any day of the week over the 100-400 for the more discrete finish, better handling, superior OS system and extra focal length ;)

Both Nikon's 80-400 VR and the 100-400 need updates...


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Feb 28, 2012 17:22 |  #4923

The price dropping has begun....
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Feb 28, 2012 17:30 |  #4924

dgrPhotos wrote in post #13985806 (external link)
The price dropping has begun....
http://allenscamera.co​m …07-4d5c-9bfe-72cd11d890d1 (external link)

It would be a nice back up to the D800. :)




  
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Feb 28, 2012 17:47 |  #4925

No doubt. Allen's Camera sold out yesterday as soon as they advertised it.




  
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Feb 28, 2012 18:29 |  #4926

$2150, not bad at all..

Wonder what will happen to the 5DII pricing when the 5DIII is announced..rumors have said it could dip below $2000...


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Feb 28, 2012 19:07 |  #4927

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It would be a nice back up to the D800. :)

If not for the freakin' cross-type points being bunched up in the middle I'd seriously think about picking up a D700. Then again for another $800 or so I could get into a D800 and still have those bunched up cross-type points :mad:




  
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Feb 28, 2012 19:12 |  #4928

peterbj7 wrote in post #13980578 (external link)
I'm seriously considering replacing my 5D with a D800E. What lens would people suggest as a replacement walk-around zoom lens for my 24-105L?

For walk-around lens on FX, the Nikon 24-120mm f4 is my ideal lens. Perfect for general photography. The Nikon 24-70mm f2.8 is much sharper than the 24-120mm f4 @ f4 but are about the same by f5.6 or above when pixel peeping on the corners.


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Feb 28, 2012 19:12 |  #4929

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #13986436 (external link)
If not for the freakin' cross-type points being bunched up in the middle I'd seriously think about picking up a D700. Then again for another $800 or so I could get into a D800 and still have those bunched up cross-type points :mad:

When I used the D700 in the past it wasn't an obvious differece like it is with the 5D2 having the 1 cross type. It's not something you need to compensate for in the same way.




  
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Feb 28, 2012 19:46 |  #4930

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #13986436 (external link)
If not for the freakin' cross-type points being bunched up in the middle I'd seriously think about picking up a D700. Then again for another $800 or so I could get into a D800 and still have those bunched up cross-type points :mad:

It's all good. The D800 has -2EV of sensitivity. ;)




  
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Feb 28, 2012 19:50 |  #4931

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #13986436 (external link)
If not for the freakin' cross-type points being bunched up in the middle I'd seriously think about picking up a D700. Then again for another $800 or so I could get into a D800 and still have those bunched up cross-type points :mad:

That's the only issue I had with the D3s, D3, and D700. Of course still much better than the 5D2, but it'll be interesting to see what the rumored "simplified" 61pt AF system on the 5D3 will bring us.


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Feb 28, 2012 21:26 |  #4932

What's wrong with having lots of cross-type points? I'm wondering about renting a D3s or D700 for camp this Summer, so it'd be nice to know what to watch for.


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Feb 29, 2012 01:05 |  #4933

dgrPhotos wrote in post #13986462 (external link)
When I used the D700 in the past it wasn't an obvious differece like it is with the 5D2 having the 1 cross type. It's not something you need to compensate for in the same way.

Truly no offense meant, but lots of 5DII owners say the 5D2's outer points aren't that bad either. Just sayin' :) I don't have experience with the D700, but garbage in garbage out applies. Nikon's non-cross-type points might be better than Canon's, but given the choice I'd still choose cross-type over non.

jdizzle wrote in post #13986703 (external link)
It's all good. The D800 has -2EV of sensitivity. ;)

I'll bet the outer points don't go to -2EV :D

nicksan wrote in post #13986731 (external link)
That's the only issue I had with the D3s, D3, and D700. Of course still much better than the 5D2, but it'll be interesting to see what the rumored "simplified" 61pt AF system on the 5D3 will bring us.

The simplified 61-point AF system with 9 points and 52 invisible helper points, and only center one cross-type? Sign me up!

SuperHuman21 wrote in post #13987430 (external link)
What's wrong with having lots of cross-type points? I'm wondering about renting a D3s or D700 for camp this Summer, so it'd be nice to know what to watch for.

Nothing wrong with lots of cross-type points. In fact that's what we all want! It's just having them bunched in the middle of the frame instead of spread out over the whole frame that's the problem. dgrPhotos has experience with the D700 and says it's not as big a problem as on the 5DII though, so maybe they're not that bad on the D3s or D700.




  
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Feb 29, 2012 01:15 |  #4934

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #13988425 (external link)
I'll bet the outer points don't go to -2EV :D

Darn it! I'm cancelling the D800! :p;)




  
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Feb 29, 2012 01:27 |  #4935

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Darn it! I'm cancelling the D800! :p;)

:lol::lol: who you fooling? it's not April 1 yet :lol:


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