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Jan 28, 2011 08:24 |  #1

Photographers now officially free to shoot in public areas & outside federal buildings

http://www.crunchgear.​com …utside-federal-buildings/ (external link)


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Jan 28, 2011 14:37 |  #2
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Anybody know where I can download that thing so I can actually READ it?




  
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Jan 28, 2011 15:13 |  #3

KaiserSose wrote in post #11732604 (external link)
Anybody know where I can download that thing so I can actually READ it?

http://documents.nytim​es.com …ldings-from-public-spaces (external link)




  
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Jan 28, 2011 15:59 |  #4

It just got posted to Gizmodo:
http://gizmodo.com …ldings-without-being-shot (external link)

there's a link to viewing it on scribd.com as well


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Jan 28, 2011 16:29 |  #5

In Sept 2009 the DOT had issued this statement...https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=10152213&po​stcount=32

Then in Oct 2010 there was an award made to a photographer... https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=11120725#po​st11120725

In between (August 2010) was the listed policy statement.


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Jan 28, 2011 23:50 |  #6

Where does this apply to? Where I live (Australia) since I've been taking photos (not that long) you've been allowed to do this. And I think you've always been able to do it. Nice to see it's being applied to more places.


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Jan 28, 2011 23:52 |  #7

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11735363 (external link)
Where does this apply to? Where I live (Australia) since I've been taking photos (not that long) you've been allowed to do this. And I think you've always been able to do it. Nice to see it's being applied to more places.

United States. It seems that a number of guards at facilities involving federal property have been a bit overzealous in stopping photographers who were taking photos of the federal building.


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Jan 29, 2011 00:03 |  #8

Oh I see, that's a shame but this bill (is that what you guys call it?) must have you pretty happy then.


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Jan 29, 2011 00:17 |  #9

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Oh I see, that's a shame but this bill (is that what you guys call it?) must have you pretty happy then.

That probably overstates the average person's reaction...it merely makes official what had previously been considered a right of any person to not be restricted in taking photos. The 9/11 terrorism has had a lot of repurcussions regarding the restrictions placed on people, the body searches and pat downs in airports, the stoppage of 'rights' in the name of counter terrorism.

For photographers, it states in writing our rights, and those martinets wearing security badges will have evidence which refutes their claims about restricted photography of federal buildings from public locations...the stoppage of 'rights' in the name of counter terrorism.

One photographer was told by transit police that he could not take photos -- although the photos he was taking were to be entered in a photography contest sponsored by the transit authority themselves!...again, the stoppage of 'rights' in the name of counter terrorism.

Valid prevention of terrorism is very different than false claims and the stoppage of 'rights' in the name of counter terrorism.


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Jan 29, 2011 01:00 |  #10

Yeah, that's rough. Sometimes in some cases I feel like it's one of those things where the fear is lowering quality of life more than the actual thing that is feared. I would add an example but I know I would offend a lot of people and we would get off topic :P

Very happy for you guys in america! It's nice not to have to worry about it.


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Jan 29, 2011 02:05 |  #11

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11735423 (external link)
Oh I see, that's a shame but this bill (is that what you guys call it?) must have you pretty happy then.

Not really. It just means that we now have permission from the government to do something that was never illegal.


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Jan 29, 2011 02:08 |  #12

Hey, we're scrapping the Terror Alert color chart.

That's a good thing, right!?


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Jan 29, 2011 06:31 as a reply to  @ FlyingPhotog's post |  #13

I wonder if inside a federal building itself would be considered a public place? It's funded by public tax monies and in most circumstances open to the public (with understandable security screenings).


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Jan 29, 2011 06:41 |  #14

This link will take you to a better copy of the document ... better for reading, better for printing.

http://www.nyclu.org …2010%20%28redac​ted%29.pdf (external link)


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Jan 29, 2011 09:16 |  #15

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I wonder if inside a federal building itself would be considered a public place? It's funded by public tax monies and in most circumstances open to the public (with understandable security screenings).

At least in Washington DC itself, photography inside was never an issue (except for inside the actual printing area where there make the paper currency!). Which makes it even more ironic when someone in another city, with a much lower visibility building (like a city post office), would object to photographs being taken.


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