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Jan 29, 2011 02:30 |  #1

Hi
i'm looking for a rucksack

i would like to carry at least one body like 5d mark 2 with a lens monted
lens in total (at least) -> 24-70L , 17-40L , 70-200L

a tripod 055xprob or 190xprob manfrotto

with a water resistant , in short i don't want to wet my gear in a rainy day( under the rain , my translator is not good :( )


maybe if there is room for flashgun i would be really happy

well i tought about lowepro and about this model Lowepro Rover AW II Backpack (Grey)

there is a pinned topic with really great reviews but some are outdated at least about lowepro rucksack


lowepro declares that the Lowepro Rover AW II is water resistent but i don't know what does lowepro means

i want to keep my gear dry in a rainy day


i would appreciate a lot you help , advises about this model or other models or even other brands


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Jan 29, 2011 02:34 |  #2

You need to consider the Lowepro "Dryzone" range

http://products.lowepr​o.com/catalog/Waterpro​of,18.htm (external link)


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Jan 29, 2011 02:44 |  #3

lannes wrote in post #11735931 (external link)
You need to consider the Lowepro "Dryzone" range

http://products.lowepr​o.com/catalog/Waterpro​of,18.htm (external link)

about the inside room does LOWEPRO DryZone Rover Yellow match ?
i did not read good review about it

and about the inside room the does Lowepro Rover AW II include easly my gear ?

waterproof means that the rain doesn't go inside the rucksack ,right?

about the Lowepro Rover AW II , i read lots of good review , but don't know about if it could keep dry my gear under the rain

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Jan 29, 2011 03:36 |  #4

Lowepro Rover AW II has a seperate all weather cover that will keep it dry, you will just need to pull it out in time.


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Jan 29, 2011 07:23 as a reply to  @ lannes's post |  #5

The Lowepro Rover AW II is not totally water resistant, but it does have an integral rain cover that you'd need to cover the pack. The Lowepro Dryzone Rover is similar in design to the Rover AW II, but in this case the gear compartment is totally waterproof; it also includes a water bladder in the upper section that is removable. Both packs have plenty of storage space for the neccessities, as well as an excellent tripod carrier that mounts vertically down the center of the pack for better balance. And yes, either Rover can easily handle your gear.

I actually have both packs, and use whatever I need to suit the conditions. Either of the Rovers can easily stow a 70-200L/2.8 or 100-400L vertically in the lower gear section. It may be tight to actually have a lens attached (especially a long lens), but I haven't tried this...for safety reasons, I make it a habit to not have a lens mounted to the camera in a backpack.


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Jan 29, 2011 08:45 |  #6

argyle wrote in post #11736444 (external link)
The Lowepro Rover AW II is not totally water resistant, but it does have an integral rain cover that you'd need to cover the pack.

but the rain cover would keep my gear dry under the rain , i mean could the water enter inside ?

i'm sure it will become damp

I actually have both packs, and use whatever I need to suit the conditions. Either of the Rovers can easily stow a 70-200L/2.8 or 100-400L vertically in the lower gear section. It may be tight to actually have a lens attached (especially a long lens), but I haven't tried this...for safety reasons, I make it a habit to not have a lens mounted to the camera in a backpack.

i have always a 17-40 or 24-70 mounted ,do you think it 's safe?
don't use long lens , at most i can carry a 70-200


about Lowepro Dryzone Rover i did not read good review about it ,instead i read lots of good reviews about The Lowepro Rover AW II,but i trust of your feedbacks

i don't go to taken photos in hard weather condition ,i'm worried only about out of the blue temporal

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Jan 29, 2011 09:14 |  #7

The Rover has a built-in, completely water proof cover. When it is on the rucksack, your camera is completely protected.

I have the Dryzone 200. It's an excellent pack for wet weather, very rainy conditions (Amazon rain forest, the beach). It will completely waterproof whatever is inside it. It will float in water.

It is very comfortable to wear for long periods of time. The main zipper is a bit hard to zip, but you can buy lubrication that is used on SCUBA wet suit zippers, and it is much easier.


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Jan 29, 2011 11:15 |  #8

tvphotog wrote in post #11736755 (external link)
The Rover has a built-in, completely water proof cover. When it is on the rucksack, your camera is completely protected.

I have the Dryzone 200. It's an excellent pack for wet weather, very rainy conditions (Amazon rain forest, the beach). It will completely waterproof whatever is inside it. It will float in water.

It is very comfortable to wear for long periods of time. The main zipper is a bit hard to zip, but you can buy lubrication that is used on SCUBA wet suit zippers, and it is much easier.

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i want to carry my camera with a lens mounted because i'm bored to collect, gather dust and dirty spots in my viewfinder


comparing price/quality of these products(brand Lowepro) with other brand there is something better of the price of owepro Rover AW II or Dryzone 200 ?

in the lowepro site there are not good enough photos to show how room there is inside :(


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Jan 29, 2011 11:53 |  #9

mantra wrote in post #11737235 (external link)
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i want to carry my camera with a lens mounted because i'm bored to collect, gather dust and dirty spots in my viewfinder

comparing price/quality of these products(brand Lowepro) with other brand there is something better of the price of owepro Rover AW II or Dryzone 200 ?

in the lowepro site there are not good enough photos to show how room there is inside :(

You can carry the lens mounted with either of the backpacks. The Tamrac Expedition 5x, 6X or 7X is similar. They does not come with a built in waterproof cover, but you can buy one separately for it.

The Rover II AW is small compared to the Dryzone 200. If you're looking for a medium sized pack, the ThinkTank Rotation 360 (external link) is excellent. You can access it without taking it off. Each section has a waterproof cover. It's more expensive than other packs, but it's the one I use for most situations.


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Jan 29, 2011 13:14 |  #10

tvphotog wrote in post #11737413 (external link)
You can carry the lens mounted with either of the backpacks. The Tamrac Expedition 5x, 6X or 7X is similar. They does not come with a built in waterproof cover, but you can buy one separately for it.

The Rover II AW is small compared to the Dryzone 200. If you're looking for a medium sized pack, the ThinkTank Rotation 360 (external link) is excellent. You can access it without taking it off. Each section has a waterproof cover. It's more expensive than other packs, but it's the one I use for most situations.

thanks
i appreciate your imputs
i will check for thinktank in some local store

for the tamrac 5x ,6x, and 7x are more expansive then the The Rover II AW and here the 7x costs like Rover DryZone
don't know if the tamrac Expedition has a better quality , but compared to the dryzone ,i mean the price , i guess i prefer the lowepro at least is waterproof

on the net the thinktank rotion 360 is around € 249,90 ($340,21)
DryZone Rover Yellow 229,90EUR ($312,98)
The Rover II AW 124,90EUR ($170,04)

so the rotation 360 is a medium pack , i thought a big pack
and instead the dryzone and the rover are small pack , right?

i did not know that the rover II AW is so smaller then the dryzone

thanks!!


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Jan 29, 2011 13:56 |  #11

The Rover II uses only the bottom area for camera and lenses. The top compartment is for clothes, food, etc. I think that's why it is less expensive.

The ThinkTank is bigger, and is basically dedicated to camera gear. In the top compartment, you can put a camera with a medium zoom lens attached, several lenses, and accessories. Of course, if you take the dividers out, you can use it for clothes and food.

In the bottom, you can put a long zoom lens on its side, another lens and a Speedlite. That's how I use mine.

The Dryzone 200 is about the same size as the Rotation. There is only one compartment, but it will hold all the gear. The same is true for the Tamrac Expedition line. Each model is bigger than the preceeding one.


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Jan 29, 2011 15:24 |  #12

mantra wrote in post #11737746 (external link)
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i appreciate your imputs
i will check for thinktank in some local store

for the tamrac 5x ,6x, and 7x are more expansive then the The Rover II AW and here the 7x costs like Rover DryZone
don't know if the tamrac Expedition has a better quality , but compared to the dryzone ,i mean the price , i guess i prefer the lowepro at least is waterproof

on the net the thinktank rotion 360 is around € 249,90 ($340,21)
DryZone Rover Yellow 229,90EUR ($312,98)
The Rover II AW 124,90EUR ($170,04)

so the rotation 360 is a medium pack , i thought a big pack
and instead the dryzone and the rover are small pack , right?

i did not know that the rover II AW is so smaller then the dryzone

thanks!!

You should do some more research, and check out cambags.com for actual pictures of the packs in their loaded condition (in most cases). I don't know where this reputation of "too small" has come from regarding the Rover, but on a recent outing to Monument Valley I was able to carry a 5D2 and 10D infrared bodies with their L-brackets, a panning clamp for panos, 17-40L, 24-70L, 70-200.2.8L in the gear section of the Rover AW II. The upper section held filters, hoods, snacks, clothing layer, and some other essentials. The side pockets each held a 1-liter water bottle, and the tripod mounted down the center. This was a fairly heavy load, but the Rover carried everything just fine. I prefer a pack such as the Rover because it has dual compartments. Most camera backpacks do not, so you're stuck with having to rummage through a bunch of stuff to find what you're looking for.

I'd definitely stay away from the Tamrac Expedition packs...they're basically nothing more than a padded box that you strap to your back, and the fly-out pockets are pretty useless in their own right. I have an Expedition 7 that never leaves the attic...basically, I made a mistake buying it. Used it once, and it hasn't seen the light of day since (that was about four years ago). The Expeditions carry a lot of gear, but that's about it and , because it only has the single compartment, you'll have to deal with stuffing everything into it (gear, clothes, food, toolkit, first aid kit, etc). No way to carry water either (unless you want to spend extra money for Tamrac's accessories that clip onto the pack). I tried clipping water bottles to the waist strap with carabiners, but after having the bottles bang against my legs for the 6-mile hike out to the Wave and back, I swore off the Tamrac for good.

No pack will be the "ideal" pack...there's always going to be compromises that will have to be made. But if being waterproof is a key criterion for you, your options will be limited.


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Jan 30, 2011 01:41 |  #13

argyle wrote in post #11738255 (external link)
You should do some more research, and check out cambags.com for actual pictures of the packs in their loaded condition (in most cases).

Thanks a lot , i did not know this site , i'm wachting now

I don't know where this reputation of "too small" has come from regarding the Rover,


i quoted Tvphotog

The Rover II AW is small compared to the Dryzone 200


No pack will be the "ideal" pack...there's always going to be compromises that will have to be made. But if being waterproof is a key criterion for you, your options will be limited.

i agree , i guess i will choose Lowepro Rover AW IIBackpack or LOWEPRO DryZone Rover Yellow according to the capacity (room space) for gear

Argyle you have both and i suppose (if i understood well) the gear capacity (room space for gear) is the same of the 2 models, right?
the point is water resistent or water proof, isn't?
i care a lot about gear room space , and second water resistent or water proof

thanks a lot for you kidness

by the way as soon as i can i will give a try to the thinktank rotion 360


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Jan 30, 2011 06:44 as a reply to  @ mantra's post |  #14

The gear capacity between the two (Rover and Dryzone Rover) is pretty much the same, as well as the room in the upper compartment. The Dryzone Rover has the internal water bladder to consider, but that is removable. My only gripe about the DR is that it doesn't have the external elastic pockets for water bottles...I prefer to have the internal room without a bladder, so the outside pockets would have been nice to have. Maybe Lowepro will upgrade future models if they haven't already.

In all actuality, if you compare specs between the two Lowepro Rover packs and the Think Tank Rotation, you'll see that each of the Rovers has more storage capacity than the Think Tank pack in each compartment (upper and lower).

I'll see if I can shoot a pic of the Rover with a lens mounted to a body since that's your preferred method of transport (I normally don't travel this way...I just use the body cap and stow the lenses separately).


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Jan 30, 2011 10:32 as a reply to  @ argyle's post |  #15

No picture to post, but there's plenty of room in the Dryzone Rover to store a 5D2 body with a lens mounted. I was able to attach my 24-70L to the 5D2, and store it (lens facing up) in the center portion of the gear compartment. I also was able to stow the 70-200/2.8L and a 17-40L in two of the remaining four lens pockets. This left two additional pockets open and available for other items (teleconverter, etc.). So if your preference is to store a body with attached lens, as well waterproof protection, the Dryzone Rover will work just fine.


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