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Using retouchers

 
NaKiD ­ EyE
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Jan 29, 2011 03:20 |  #1

I know a lot of well known photographers do not do their own editing and that is fine... but does anyone else feel if that if they used a retoucher that it doesn't feel like your work anymore?

I know it shouldn't matter since i own the copyright but let's just say i take a picture with bad lighting and an even worse background. Then they fix everything and even tastefully replace the background to make it more pleasing. I would feel wrong a little claiming it was my image in the end.

here are some examples:
http://photos.modelmay​hem.com …0422/07/4bd0629​e3b475.jpg (external link)
http://photos.modelmay​hem.com …0106/17/4d26722​761350.jpg (external link)

not horrible lighting but definitely imo a better image after the edit.




  
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Jan 29, 2011 03:37 |  #2

if it was personal work i would always do the retouching myself unless it's something i wasn't capeable of learning any time soon then i wouldn't have a problem with using a retoucher.

as a job i would care a whole lot less, actually i hope that i get succesful enough one day to have someone who can do all my processing.


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Jan 30, 2011 05:27 |  #3

Yeah, I'm not sure I would ever want to let someone else retouch wedding photos I took, but an advertising/editorial type photo? I' d have no problem letting someone else retouch/ photoshop something like that.


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Jan 30, 2011 14:35 |  #4

hmm i guess i shouldn't either then.




  
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Apr 09, 2011 15:02 |  #5

NaKiD EyE wrote in post #11743585 (external link)
hmm i guess i shouldn't either then.

Let's bump this because I was going to create a similar thread.

I think it depends how much retouching is done. If the difference is night and day, I think the retoucher needs equal if not more credit than the photographer.

I'm a bit guilty too because I had some images recently done by a retoucher(blemish, background removal etc) and though my initial shot was really good, the retoucher brought my image to another level.


I don't know if its ethical to claim all the credit but I feel like my presence as a photographer is diminished if I mention that the photo was edited by someone else.




  
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Apr 09, 2011 15:07 |  #6

Rittrato wrote in post #12190233 (external link)
I don't know if its ethical to claim all the credit but I feel like my presence as a photographer is diminished if I mention that the photo was edited by someone else.

The photo editor should, IMHO, at least get equal credit.


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Apr 09, 2011 15:22 |  #7

I use retouchers if it is important or if I am behind. Personal stuff I do not.


Don't try to confuse me with the facts, my mind is already made up.
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Apr 11, 2011 09:50 |  #8

Rittrato wrote in post #12190233 (external link)
I don't know if its ethical to claim all the credit but I feel like my presence as a photographer is diminished if I mention that the photo was edited by someone else.

It is diminished, but it doesn't change the truth. Would you really feel comfortable just letting people think that's what your work looks like sooc? In cases as extreme as the couple of examples given in the op, It'd definitely not be ethical to claim it all....I'd pretty much instantly loose respect for anyone that did. If the vast majority of it wasn't your work, then it just wasn't, some folks need to have a little humble pie and admit it......it's not that big of a deal.

Just the same as a cg artist who models/textures/lights​/& renders big 3d metallic tentacles & composites it all together so they're coming out of the models back (just as some strange example), when he/she posts that work they're generally going to specify what is and is not their own work in the image.


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Apr 11, 2011 09:59 |  #9

I would never use a retoucher, I want to create my own art to the best of my abilities.
If that is how you want your photos to look.... learn how to do that.
Let me qualify this stance by saying that I do not have to earn a living from photography.

For people that earn a living from photography this may be a necessary component of what they do. Nothing wrong with having a team working together to create the final product...just like using makeup wardrobe hair lighting people in my opinion.


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