compare between canon 7d and 5dm2

vasans wrote in post #11742175
Sold my 7D which I admired and enjoyed so much for an year or so and bought 5D MkII yesterday. One thing so shocked me is 9 AF points in 5D compared to 19 in 7D. Hmmm; What else to surprise on the downside?

You sold your 7D to get a 5D2 and didn't know how the AF worked?

Ziffle wrote in post #11742399
what is so hard about the search function?

i guess people are getting board - canon/nikon needs to release something so the general POTN community will have something to toss around......

andrewq wrote in post #11742620
There is a search function on this site and it behooves one to learn to use it. I shouldn't even be posting in this thread. I just couldn't help myself.

The only thing more annoying than seeing the same topic a lot, is someone who says nothing other than "Use the search function" which offers literally no help to someone who might completely unfamiliar/new to forums.

Also right from the forum rules:

So if you're done being ignorant how about helping the man.

joebokeh wrote in post #11741933
o....m.....g....

ditto.

Dr.Pete wrote in post #11742656
You sold your 7D to get a 5D2 and didn't know how the AF worked?

That is seriously comical.

Abdu AlShehhi wrote in post #11741877
i want to buy one of this cameras


what is the better ??

i like land scape and birds

Well, let me put it this way...

The 5Dmk2 is slightly better for landscapes than the 7D is, because it has a slightly higher resolution, so it's able to capture slightly more detail. See this thread for a good comparison and discussion.

The 7D is significantly better for birding than the 5Dmk2. Not only are you able to get greater "reach" with any given lens, the autofocus system in the 7D kills that of the 5Dmk2 for birding. The 7D's system can track the bird across the autofocus area, which occupies a significantly greater proportion of the frame than does the 5Dmk2's autofocus system. The 7D's autofocus system is fast, accurate, flexible, and precise. The 5Dmk2's autofocus system is mediocre at best except for the center point, which is very good.

Think of the 7D as a 1Dmk3 with a 1.6 crop sensor. Its autofocus system has been favorably compared with that on the 1Dmk3 (ahem ... after the 1Dmk3 fixes were done). The same most certainly can't be said of the 5Dmk2's autofocus system.


The bottom line is: if you need a single camera that will do both things very well, the 7D is the logical choice.

If you mostly want to shoot landscapes, get the 5DII. It's excellent for that:

Get both if you can afford. 7D & 5DM2 are different camera.

realmike15 wrote in post #11750007
The only thing more annoying than seeing the same topic a lot, is someone who says nothing other than "Use the search function" which offers literally no help to someone who might completely unfamiliar/new to forums.

Also right from the forum rules:


So if you're done being ignorant how about helping the man.

appreciate your thoughts ... let me know when you contribute yourself.

The subject has been beaten like .... i don't know .... choose your saying....
a dead horse ..... for starters.


7D is great all round camera and excels at fast moving photography and does very well in low light in regards to AF. Nice high ISO. About a stop lower in ISO than the 5dmkii (noise).
5Dmkii excels at wedding/event/portrait work. Down side to 5Dmkii for wedding work is it needs a flash mounted on top for focus assist. No biggie - just know your gear.
Printing bigger than 2'x3' .... 5Dmkii wins.
Also some like the look on the FF over 7D in the printed form .... at least in the wedding world.


realmike ... your turn. Step up or go back to the porch.

-Mark

kcbrown wrote in post #11750445
Well, let me put it this way...

...stuff...

The bottom line is: if you need a single camera that will do both things very well, the 7D is the logical choice.

I have both and my take is a little different.

The 5dII is a LOT better for landscapes because it is a full frame camera, which makes an astronomical difference to landscape shots, particularly when landscape shots are at their best, at sunrise and sunset. The 7d only really competes when there is plenty of light, like mid-day on a reasonably sunny day.

The 7d is a LITTLE better for birds. It is much better at tracking Birds in Flight, and it gives you more reach. Those are the only significant upsides. The 5dII gives far better results when shooting birds in low-light conditions (like on a shaded tree branch) and its higher resolution and improved image quality makes up for about half of the reach increase of the 7d.

I personally reach for my 5dII in any circumstance where it is at all likely to work and only go for the 7d when the action is just way too fast, or I absolutely have to have that extra little bit of reach. Otherwise the image quality from the 5dII will always make it the better choice. I would rather miss 2/3rds of my shots with the 5dII but have the ones I get look incredible than catch all my shots but have none of them look better than just pretty good.

arentol wrote in post #11751625
I have both and my take is a little different.

The 5dII is a LOT better for landscapes because it is a full frame camera, which makes an astronomical difference to landscape shots, particularly when landscape shots are at their best, at sunrise and sunset. The 7d only really competes when there is plenty of light, like mid-day on a reasonably sunny day.

What, specifically, makes full frame better for this, much less a lot better? How is it that the shots are better? The resolution difference between the two cameras is relatively small (less than 10% on a side). As long as you have a good lens on the 7D (its one major disadvantage compared to the 5D is that it's more demanding of lens resolving power), I see no reason to believe that the 5D images will be so much better that the untrained eye would be able to notice a difference unless the two shots were shown side by side, and perhaps not even then.

Certainly the difference between the two in the thread I linked to was much less than the night and day difference you're claiming here...

What glass are you using on your 7D when comparing the two cameras? Have you microadjusted the 7D? It sounds an awful lot like your 7D is somehow sub-par. Some of the glass you have listed (the 50-500 OS in particular) is probably not good enough to outresolve the sensor on the 7D, so the 7D will definitely be at a disadvantage compared to the 5Dmk2 with its larger photosites, at least for some of your glass (the 200L and 50 f/1.4 should do very nicely on it, however).

What about a nice L lens? Glass>body
But if you insist getting a body 7D seems to suit you, 10-22 on crop is not bad either.
I remembered a thread about a landscape picture comparison between 5D II and 7D with 10-22 and it has no big difference at all.

Ziffle wrote in post #11751025
appreciate your thoughts ... let me know when you contribute yourself.

The subject has been beaten like .... i don't know .... choose your saying....
a dead horse ..... for starters.


7D is great all round camera and excels at fast moving photography and does very well in low light in regards to AF. Nice high ISO. About a stop lower in ISO than the 5dmkii (noise).
5Dmkii excels at wedding/event/portrait work. Down side to 5Dmkii for wedding work is it needs a flash mounted on top for focus assist. No biggie - just know your gear.
Printing bigger than 2'x3' .... 5Dmkii wins.
Also some like the look on the FF over 7D in the printed form .... at least in the wedding world.


realmike ... your turn. Step up or go back to the porch.

-Mark

My contributions are on the first page. Feel free to read the thread next time before posting champ. Thanks for playing.