If I'm not mistaken the F117 first saw service over Grenada. 10 years before the public knew of it's existence.
Best kept secret since the Manhattan Project. So I heard
Desertraptor Cream of the Crop More info | Jan 31, 2011 02:30 | #16 If I'm not mistaken the F117 first saw service over Grenada. 10 years before the public knew of it's existence. Peter
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FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Jan 31, 2011 02:32 | #17 First Flight: 1981 Jay
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Pita_146 Member 56 posts Joined May 2010 More info | Jan 31, 2011 05:10 | #18 JeffreyG wrote in post #11745531 Our current enemies are mostly armed with the AK-47 defense system which can be defeated by just about any plane in the US arsenal if you can ID the target. Be careful fighting the last (or current) war. Fight the one of the future.
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FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Yup... Jay
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jeswaw Member 37 posts Joined Apr 2010 More info | Jan 31, 2011 06:38 | #20 I agree, the F-35 is a pointless program that didn't need to exist. Look at how many F16's crash due to a single engine mishap. The 15's still crash, but its less common. And like I always say every time I work on one: "Two is always better than one".
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Chippy569 Goldmember 1,851 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN More info | Jan 31, 2011 07:53 | #21 Silly government, cutting the 117 and the a10. Gear List
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p27rpy Goldmember 1,418 posts Likes: 33 Joined Oct 2010 More info | Jan 31, 2011 09:35 | #22 i still can't understand how those things can actually fly. Theo Civitello - Houston Based Automotive, Wedding & Life Photography
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FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Jan 31, 2011 12:03 | #23 Chippy569 wrote in post #11747844 Silly government, cutting the 117 and the a10. They really didn't "cut" the F-117 per se... Jay
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Desertraptor Cream of the Crop More info | Jan 31, 2011 15:39 | #24 Australia choose the F18 over the F16 due to the single engine issue. Apparently (so they say) the F35 engines 'wont" fail so we were convinced to sign up to the F35. Apparently production starts here in2014 so I heard recently? Peter
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jeswaw Member 37 posts Joined Apr 2010 More info | Jan 31, 2011 16:04 | #25 Desertraptor wrote in post #11750556 Australia choose the F18 over the F16 due to the single engine issue. Apparently (so they say) the F35 engines 'wont" fail so we were convinced to sign up to the F35. Apparently production starts here in2014 so I heard recently? I work on the F15E and I will have to say that it may come down broke a lot but its nothing serious, mostly picky pilots. I wished the A/F would just phase the C models that have no mission orientation. Here on my base we have a C models that go to places just to go. Not for show of force, not to deploy to help the war. Just here to waste money in my honest opinion. If they dont have a mission then we dont need them any more. Im not hating on C models, b/c there is a few bases in america where they have a mission.
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JHutch Senior Member 595 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2010 More info | Jan 31, 2011 16:46 | #26 jeswaw wrote in post #11750733 Here on my base we have a C models that go to places just to go. Sounds like a pretty sweet deal for those LTs! D700+Voigtlander 40mm+Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 ai-s
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ryanapem Senior Member 664 posts Joined Oct 2009 Location: Washington More info | Jan 31, 2011 16:51 | #27 *cough cough cough* correction: FlyingPhotog wrote in post #11749250 It was life limited and it was either park them or risk losing more air crew due to more airframes coming apart in flight. -Ryan
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Jan 31, 2011 23:20 | #28 FlyingPhotog wrote in post #11745389 The 117s were early generation composite and RAM (radar ablative material) technology. They were life limited and the clock was ticking the second they left the factory. Not surprising that they can still fly but (probably) never again in anger. Speaking of the B-52... Did you know that there hasn't been a B-52 built new since roughly 1965? Correction -- the last B-52 to come off of the assembly line was the last of the "H" models in 1962 after 744 aircraft were built -- I may be wrong -- but now only the "g"'s and "h"'s are still operational. I worked on the ECM gear on the C's and D's in 1969 at Ellsworth AFB SD
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jeswaw Member 37 posts Joined Apr 2010 More info | Feb 01, 2011 00:11 | #29 JHutch wrote in post #11751017 Sounds like a pretty sweet deal for those LTs! Really though, they don't even deploy?Well if you count 4-6 month TDY to vacation spots. Im talking they went to a place on TDY and made more in Per Diem then what I made in a war zone, which tells you that the places they are going to are nice.
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