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Feb 01, 2011 09:20 |  #16

Like someone else said, the first thing that popped out was lighting. A lot of those would benefit from some sort of fill light when using the sun as a back/rim light. You can eliminate this by properly exposing the subject which will cause the bg to blow out but sometimes it works. There's also some minor gripes like cutting off feet and possibly missed focus depending on if that's what you were trying to achieve or not. Not a bad start, keep at it! Beautiful model btw.


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Feb 02, 2011 20:27 |  #17

ur site- flash sucks! it is especially slow on normal people computers that get viruses on them, and macs :P.

i think im the only one that looked at what your charging, you are better off flipping burgers. you are charging 25 bucks an hour and giving files for free. you need to re-do your pricing. you give them a disc of hi res files.... and you give them a gallery to order prints from... they will take your disk and go down to wallmart and print them for way cheaper themselves.


i would like to revise my previous statement... you are putting yourself out of business...
lets look at this
50 dollars for up to 2 hour session
free cd of images- edited
free web gallery

$50/2 hr
- cost of CDS $2
-1 hour post processing the images
-hosting cost per person ($1)
=$47/3hrs = 15.66 /hr
add in deprecation on the equipment and your looking at uhh lol

good luck, and count on your clients keeping you there for the whole 2 hours~ i wouldn't pay 50 dollars for a 2 hour massage and leave after 45 minutes of it ;P

charge for cd of images, not High Res, charge for prints,
make a budle say
50$
gets you 1 hour session
up to 15 edited image proofing gallery, with bigass watermark so you can't steal it.

then choose up to 2 images for 50 dollars, 4 images for $75 dollars, 1 print each Image, or $100 dollar CD 2 images $150 cd 4 images
and if you feel nice give them a web size images 72PPI, 720px on the long edge of the images for their Facebook. so if they print they look like poo poo but will look okay on line ( with a smaller water mark on it in a no destructive manner )
or add a $25 dollar web sized CD + no prints. or free with prints.

additional prints and packages

lets say they do cheapest method.
50$/hr
-30 min editing
+$75 dollar prints - 10 bucks your cost = $65 print
=$76.66/hr of work. +/-
cot to client is$125 for 2 prints, hell my senior pics were $150 bucks a few years ago...

there a studio here been here for a few years now, does senior pics in and out of the studio one shot one dress 10 minuts in and out for 30 bucks 1 small print, or $399 for a package :P


or something like that ya know, look around at other's pricing, yeah your not going charge as much as a 10 year pro who been published in every magazine from a to z, but your going put yourself out of business at your current prices


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Feb 02, 2011 20:40 |  #18

bedojo wrote in post #11766451 (external link)
ur site- flash sucks! it is especially slow on normal people computers that get viruses on them, and macs :P.

i think im the only one that looked at what your charging, you are better off flipping burgers. you are charging 25 bucks an hour and giving files for free. you need to re-do your pricing. you give them a disc of hi res files.... and you give them a gallery to order prints from... they will take your disk and go down to wallmart and print them for way cheaper themselves.


i would like to revise my previous statement... you are putting yourself out of business...
lets look at this
50 dollars for up to 2 hour session
free cd of images- edited
free web gallery

$50/2 hr
- cost of CDS $2
-1 hour post processing the images
-hosting cost per person ($1)
=$47/3hrs = 15.66 /hr
add in deprecation on the equipment and your looking at uhh lol

good luck, and count on your clients keeping you there for the whole 2 hours~ i wouldn't pay 50 dollars for a 2 hour massage and leave after 45 minutes of it ;P

charge for cd of images, not High Res, charge for prints,
make a budle say
50$
gets you 1 hour session
up to 15 edited image proofing gallery, with bigass watermark so you can't steal it.

then choose up to 2 images for 50 dollars, 4 images for $75 dollars, 1 print each Image, or $100 dollar CD 2 images $150 cd 4 images

additional prints and packages


or something like that ya know, look around at other's pricing, yeah your not going charge as much as a 10 year pro who been published in every magazine from a to z, but your going put yourself out of business at your current prices

Nope I did, first page,...and I'm not even a Portrait/Wedding photographer.


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Feb 02, 2011 20:52 |  #19

Have a cookie~
she does children couples, engagements and something else... guess what that is the same thing as a senior port~ without it being in a year book ;P , and it should be worth more then a senior port for engagements :O

and their pics are slightly better then yours,,, not by that much tho.


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Feb 05, 2011 17:07 |  #20

bedojo wrote in post #11766451 (external link)
ur site- flash sucks! it is especially slow on normal people computers that get viruses on them, and macs :P.

i think im the only one that looked at what your charging, you are better off flipping burgers. you are charging 25 bucks an hour and giving files for free. you need to re-do your pricing. you give them a disc of hi res files.... and you give them a gallery to order prints from... they will take your disk and go down to wallmart and print them for way cheaper themselves.


i would like to revise my previous statement... you are putting yourself out of business...
lets look at this
50 dollars for up to 2 hour session
free cd of images- edited
free web gallery

$50/2 hr
- cost of CDS $2
-1 hour post processing the images
-hosting cost per person ($1)
=$47/3hrs = 15.66 /hr
add in deprecation on the equipment and your looking at uhh lol

good luck, and count on your clients keeping you there for the whole 2 hours~ i wouldn't pay 50 dollars for a 2 hour massage and leave after 45 minutes of it ;P

charge for cd of images, not High Res, charge for prints,
make a budle say
50$
gets you 1 hour session
up to 15 edited image proofing gallery, with bigass watermark so you can't steal it.

then choose up to 2 images for 50 dollars, 4 images for $75 dollars, 1 print each Image, or $100 dollar CD 2 images $150 cd 4 images
and if you feel nice give them a web size images 72PPI, 720px on the long edge of the images for their Facebook. so if they print they look like poo poo but will look okay on line ( with a smaller water mark on it in a no destructive manner )
or add a $25 dollar web sized CD + no prints. or free with prints.

additional prints and packages

lets say they do cheapest method.
50$/hr
-30 min editing
+$75 dollar prints - 10 bucks your cost = $65 print
=$76.66/hr of work. +/-
cot to client is$125 for 2 prints, hell my senior pics were $150 bucks a few years ago...

there a studio here been here for a few years now, does senior pics in and out of the studio one shot one dress 10 minuts in and out for 30 bucks 1 small print, or $399 for a package :P


or something like that ya know, look around at other's pricing, yeah your not going charge as much as a 10 year pro who been published in every magazine from a to z, but your going put yourself out of business at your current prices

bedojo:
as far as the flash goes, i have no control unless you know a way. It works much better through firefox bc the flash on safari is not as good.
As far as pricing...i got your point. I understand that I am charging a VERY low price, but I am also trying to build up a portfolio therefore trying to increase traffic, I have looked at prices around and i find some to be ridiculous, i am not keeping these prices for long. but would appreciate what you think a person out the gate with great equiptment and knows how to use it should charge? I am keeping my discs included, bc that is what i have always looked for in photographers, and there are plenty out there that do so. The galleries are for friends and family or others who want to buy a copy not for the person with the disc.
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