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EOS 650 - you know, the 35mm one...

 
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Feb 01, 2011 16:26 |  #1

Okay it may not be a DIGITAL canon camera and these are the DIGITAL photog forums but I have a really simple (or it may be really hard) question on this camera. I just got one off ebay for 20 bucks so I could use all my EF lenses in a film photography class, but this battery (2CR5) it takes cant be a rechargable one, I looked up everywhere finding out why but came up with nothing. Naturally I don't want to spend 5-10 bucks a pop when the thing dies so does anyone know of any reason why the rechargeable ones do not work with it, if not ill probably just tape 4 AA's together and run a long wire into my pocket every time it dies...Also I will deliver B/W ducks once I can make the thing turn on!:mad:


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Feb 01, 2011 16:55 |  #2

The battery lasts quite a long while (unless you're doing a whole lot of time exposures--lasting several seconds), so it's not onerous to use the 2CR5.

That 650 will be a classic.


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Feb 01, 2011 17:05 |  #3

The 650 was Canons first EOS AF camera, and mine too. I bought it when it hit the streets. Back then Canon had the best AF system on the market, bar none! It was kinda odd, the 650 came out and then the 620 was next.

I looked at them all, and in side by side tests Canon was the walk away winner. Fastest and quietest AF system offered up.

As stated above in that camera the 2CR5 lasts a long time.




  
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Feb 01, 2011 17:41 |  #4
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If it turns out you really like that camera, they MAY have made a grip for it, you might search around and see if you can find one.

I've got seveal film bodies I've picked up in trades, including that one, a 1- series, an EOS-3, and two Elan7's I REALLY like the Elan 7's. The EOS-3 has no built in diopter.




  
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Feb 01, 2011 17:43 |  #5

Alright I'm gonna buy a 3 pack of those batteries and then I can fire the thing up, hopefully it will last the 15 or so rolls I'll be shooting this semester. I didn't know the 650 was before the 620 when I was looking up an instruction manual for it on the web, and saw that the 620 has so many more features, such as multiple exposure (which would probably blow my professor's mind) and things like that. Thanks for the info everyone.


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Feb 01, 2011 18:09 |  #6

Dooms_day wrote in post #11758678 (external link)
Alright I'm gonna buy a 3 pack of those batteries and then I can fire the thing up, hopefully it will last the 15 or so rolls I'll be shooting this semester. I didn't know the 650 was before the 620 when I was looking up an instruction manual for it on the web, and saw that the 620 has so many more features, such as multiple exposure (which would probably blow my professor's mind) and things like that. Thanks for the info everyone.

Unless there's something wrong with it, you should get 20-30 rolls out of a battery.


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Feb 01, 2011 18:14 |  #7

I shot about 20 rolls of film last year on a single 2CR5 and it's still kicking. As others already said, I wouldn't worry about it.

I hope your class doesn't require to shoot everything in Manual, because the 650/620/630 have one of the most idiotic manual modes in existence, IMO.




  
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Feb 01, 2011 18:25 |  #8

Dooms_day wrote in post #11758678 (external link)
I didn't know the 650 was before the 620 when I was looking up an instruction manual for it on the web, and saw that the 620 has so many more features, such as multiple exposure (which would probably blow my professor's mind) and things like that.

The 630 came after the 650 and 620 and has even more features.

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The EOS 630 had the fastest autofocus and winding speed of the early EOS 600 series...............

The EOS 630 is a notch above the EOS 620 with faster AF speed. Like the EOS 620, the 630 has autobracketing up to ±5 stops (1/2-stop increments), maximum of 9 multiple exposures, 6-zone evaluative metering, and 6.5% partial metering at the center.

In the AI Servo AF mode, the maximum shooting speed is 2.5 fps. In the One-Shot AF mode, the maximum is 5 fps. The body came in black or metallic gray. The price was the same for both colors.



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Feb 02, 2011 01:37 |  #9

msowsun wrote in post #11758929 (external link)
The 630 came after the 650 and 620 and has even more features.

Correct.

At the time, some official Canon literature indicated that the 620 was slightly better than the newer 630. Such claims were not generally believed (well, except by some 620 owners, I guess). As I recall, the main reasons why the 620 was supposed to rank above the 630 were the 620's faster sync speed (1/250 vs. 1/125), and faster top shutter speed (1/4000 vs. 1/2000). But in a half dozen other areas, the advantage clearly went to the 630. Canon soon stopped "spinning" the 620 as the better camera.

I would add that the 630 was fairly popular with professional photographers looking for a much less expensive backup body to use with the (by the standards of the time, very pricey) EOS-1. It was particularly well regarded by sports photographers, for its excellent (again, by the standards of the day) auto-focus speed - fast and accurate focusing having been one of the big draws of the early EOS/EF system - and for its very respectable 5fps motor drive.

I bought a 630 back in... probably late 1989, or thereabouts... and it served me quite well until I replaced it with an Elan two or three years later. Sure, by today's standards, it was had all sorts of limitations, shortcomings, and design flaws, but by the standards of the late 1980s, an EOS-630 was quite the cutting edge example of photographic technology.

It also compared well against Nikon's first halfway decent auto-focus SLR - the Nikon 8008 - which was more or less contemporaneous with the 630. Both of these cameras were their respective lines' "advanced amateur" flagships. (Marketing executives hadn't yet inflicted the term "prosumer" upon us.)

Anyway Dooms_day, the 2CR5 will last a good long time in a 630. I don't remember how long, exactly, but I don't recall ever being annoyed at my 630 for going through batteries in a hurry.

Oh, one feature of the 630 you may want to play with is Depth of Field mode. Basically, you choose a foreground focusing point, a background focusing point, and the camera chooses the f-stop needed to keep everything between the two in focus. Canon sort of abandoned this feature on subsequent cameras, which I've always thought was a darn shame.

If you snagged your 630 for $20, you got a good deal. Well, unless the seller hit you for sky high shipping charges (a common situation on eBay).

Just yesterday, I bought myself a vintage EOS camera body - an EOS-1n. I remember seriously lusting after the EOS-1n when it was Canon's flagship camera. But I never bought myself one, since it was ridiculously expensive - like, $1500, or something in that general vicinity. Which in today's dollars is surely the equivalent of $2000+.

Well, the other day I spotted a craigslist ad for an excellent condition EOS-1n, for $60. You heard me right - sixty dollars. So I emailed back an immediate "I'll take it." And so, while it's taken me 20 years, I've finally gotten the 35mm SLR of my early 1990s dreams.

And I fully intend to take it out a few times over the next week or two, and run some Kodak Ektar 100 and Fuji Velvia through it, and pretend like it's the 1990s, when "digital" still meant "using your fingers." Although there's no more Kodachrome. It woulda been nice to have been able to run a roll of Kodachrome through the camera.

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(Man, $20 for an EOS 630... Plenty of times, I've spent more than that on 2 rolls of film w/processing. Talk about a bargain, so long as one already owns some EF glass...)




  
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Feb 02, 2011 05:08 |  #10

Heck the Canon 1v is still sold for the same price as a 5dmkII and there is still alot of proffesionals shooting with film. The 650 is a nice camera!

I am longing to get my hands on a 1n right now. I have probably spent a 24-70 on just film this year so shooting digital is alot cheaper but damn, the quality and feel of film is nice!


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Feb 02, 2011 10:21 |  #11

KaiserSose wrote in post #11758662 (external link)
If it turns out you really like that camera, they MAY have made a grip for it, you might search around and see if you can find one.

I've got seveal film bodies I've picked up in trades, including that one, a 1- series, an EOS-3, and two Elan7's I REALLY like the Elan 7's. The EOS-3 has no built in diopter.

I have an EOS 650 also. They did make a GR10 grip, but it is not a battery grip like we have for digital. It's just a larger grip. The 2CR5's lasted fairly well.


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Feb 02, 2011 10:27 |  #12

From the original brochure:
"With Canon's new EOS 650, you're one step ahead of the game from the very beginning. Because the EOS 650 features a super-fast autofocus system... a system so fast that you capture those once-in-a-lifetime images, and so accurate that you make the most of every opportunity.

The lens has two precision motors that control lens action. You know you're in focus, so that you can spend all your time concentrating on what you want to accomplish."


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Feb 02, 2011 10:48 as a reply to  @ Tim S's post |  #13

If you have modern EF lenses with Image Stabilization, I recommend you turn it off. IS consumes a lot of power, which isn't much of an issue with a digital camera, since it has a so much more powerful battery (and rechargeable too), but it will quickly kill the standard battery in your camera for film.

I noticed this when I tried an IS lens on my EOS 30.


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