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Feb 07, 2011 14:11 |  #31

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How about I'll name you five world-class photographers that don't slap the word photography at the end of their names.

Patrick Demarchelier http://www.demarchelie​r.net/home.html (external link)

Francesco Carrozzini http://www.francescoca​rrozzini.com/ (external link)

Scott kelby http://www.scottkelby.​com/ (external link)

Rick Sammon http://www.ricksammon.​info/ (external link)

Scott Bourne http://bournemediagrou​p.com/ (external link)

My point was be original about your business's name. I did not say "don't use your name". What I said was don't be boring and just use "insert name here"'s photography.

So as CDIPhoto and I observed--and you previously denied--you are only beefed over the word "photography." So it's your personal opinion that you don't like "photography." So what?

And, btw, you've only identified web domain names, not business names.


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Feb 07, 2011 17:20 |  #32

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So as CDIPhoto and I observed--and you previously denied--you are only beefed over the word "photography." So it's your personal opinion that you don't like "photography." So what?

And, btw, you've only identified web domain names, not business names.

If you actually go to their website, I know it's not hard to click on a link. But you will see

Copyright © 2010 Bourne Media Group

© Rick Sammon.

© 2009 Kelby Media Group. All Rights Reserved

© 2009 Patrick Demarchelier Inc.


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Feb 07, 2011 17:26 |  #33

So the OP should build his brand soley around his name, or perhaps add media group although he isnt doing other media, nor is he a group? In my city of 100,000 the two most successful studio/commercial photographers are using their name and photography. Perhaps you are too exposed to that on here, but the rest of the world doesnt care so much.




  
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Feb 07, 2011 17:32 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #34

Perhaps you are too exposed to that on here, but the rest of the world doesnt care so much.

Exactly. "John Doe Photography." Nobody is going to doff him off just because he has "Photography" in his business name. It's a non-issue, a point about nothing.


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Feb 07, 2011 18:11 as a reply to  @ RDKirk's post |  #35

I live in Toronto Ontario, population is around 2.5 million. I know about 120 photographers Pro and hobbies in the area and about 90 percent of them uses their name photography. I see it all the time, not just on this forum but everywhere.

My friend Ramesh who is a videography, he does a lot of wedding and his work is amazing. His company is not called "Ramesh's videography". It's called Butterfly Squad, he charge around 4K for weddings and he's always booked. I had a chance to work with him a few times. He'll shoot the video on a 5D Mark II, most of the other videographers around the area don't use the 5D. That's what makes him stand out for from the rest of the videographers. You can see his work at http://www.butterflysq​uad.com/ (external link)

I know wedding videography doesn't have as much completion as wedding photography does, that will explain why he is alway booked.

If videography started to become extremely popular and everyone and their mothers started to do it, it would get pretty annoying seeing everyone call themselves "their name"'s videography.


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Feb 07, 2011 18:34 |  #36

You're implying that he's a well paid videographer and he's good because of his business name. That's just silly.

Putting "photography" after your name isn't necessarily a lack of creativity. It's the simplest way to eliminate any doubt as to what service you offer.

When you're running a business that caters to human beings, K.I.S.S is a solid policy.

You seem to be the only one here that's extremely bothered by the word "photography." I see a lot of cliches, but business names containing that word don't strike me as one of them.


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Feb 07, 2011 18:38 |  #37

I'm imagining someone with a marginal memory trying to google butterfly squid to find a vidoegrapher..




  
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Feb 07, 2011 19:02 |  #38

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You're implying that he's a well paid videographer and he's good because of his business name. That's just silly.

I really think you need to improve your comprehension skills, I did not say anything like that.

This is what I said!

"I know wedding videography doesn't have as much completion as wedding photography does, that will explain why he is alway booked. "

" He'll shoot the video on a 5D Mark II, most of the other videographers around the area don't use the 5D. "

He's good because he's different from the other wedding videographers because he uses 5Ds, most of the other videographers don't use it. You can't use a 5D like a normal video camcorders. If the other videographers want to jump in and use 5Ds they will have to rebuy most of their gears such as having tons of memory card around, lens, lighting, Glidecam, sound recording. And also the learning curve with new gear.


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Feb 07, 2011 19:40 |  #39

My comprehension is just fine. You should re-evaluate what you're writing, because it doesn't hold up to basic logic.

If you really did mean he's good because he uses 5Ds, well then he's in trouble when others start using the same. If the gear you use is your only leg up, you don't really have much to offer.

That has nothing to do with his business name though and therefore not on topic.


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Feb 07, 2011 20:03 |  #40

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My comprehension is just fine. You should re-evaluate what you're writing, because it doesn't hold up to basic logic.

If you really did mean he's good because he uses 5Ds, well then he's in trouble when others start using the same. If the gear you use is your only leg up, you don't really have much to offer.

That has nothing to do with his business name though and therefore not on topic.

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I live in Toronto Ontario, population is around 2.5 million. I know about 120 photographers Pro and hobbies in the area and about 90 percent of them uses their name photography. I see it all the time, not just on this forum but everywhere.

My friend Ramesh who is a videography, he does a lot of wedding and his work is amazing. His company is not called "Ramesh's videography". It's called Butterfly Squad, he charge around 4K for weddings and he's always booked. I had a chance to work with him a few times. He'll shoot the video on a 5D Mark II, most of the other videographers around the area don't use the 5D. That's what makes him stand out for from the rest of the videographers. You can see his work at http://www.butterflysq​uad.com/ (external link)

I know wedding videography doesn't have as much completion as wedding photography does, that will explain why he is alway booked.

If videography started to become extremely popular and everyone and their mothers started to do it, it would get pretty annoying seeing everyone call themselves "their name"'s videography.

The bold font was the point I was trying to make!

If you're unsure what some of the words mean, here's a Dictionary (external link) for help.


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Feb 07, 2011 20:17 |  #41

Insults don't prove your point either.

Anyway, this thread is now repetitive so I'm done.


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Feb 07, 2011 21:46 |  #42

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If videography started to become extremely popular and everyone and their mothers started to do it, it would get pretty annoying seeing everyone call themselves "their name"'s videography.

It's only annoying to you.


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Feb 08, 2011 17:24 |  #43

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My suggestion are just examples, because some mouth breathers are a little slow to understand my point is.

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Feb 08, 2011 19:03 |  #44

Cypther wrote in post #11797323 (external link)
I live in Toronto Ontario, population is around 2.5 million. I know about 120 photographers Pro and hobbies in the area and about 90 percent of them uses their name photography. I see it all the time, not just on this forum but everywhere.

Dude, your points are so off target and indefensible it is getting humorous. You want all photographers to stop using a standard method of identifying their business. You back this up with established, well branded companies for examples. You use the example of Ford. Ford is not the actual company name, it is Ford Motor Company, which began life as Henry Ford Company. You are confusing branding with naming. Also, do you think the businesses you named are confined to a market of 2.5 million?

I know wedding videography doesn't have as much completion as wedding photography does, that will explain why he is alway booked.

Are you suggesting videographers do not follow through on their obligations or jobs? Seriously, if you are going to throw out links to dictionaries, you may want to check one out yourself.

The OP is getting started. It is perfectly rational to identify what type of business or service they are providing. Are you going to visit plumbing, catering, or other sites involving service and trade and tell them how foolish their business names are?




  
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Feb 08, 2011 20:19 |  #45

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Dude, your points are so off target and indefensible it is getting humorous. You want all photographers to stop using a standard method of identifying their business. You back this up with established, well branded companies for examples. You use the example of Ford. Ford is not the actual company name, it is Ford Motor Company, which began life as Henry Ford Company. You are confusing branding with naming. Also, do you think the businesses you named are confined to a market of 2.5 million?

So you want me to give you examples of unestablished mom and pop businesses? If I do, I won't have any references on google to back the information. Most of these mom and pop businesses don't have websites.

What if the automotive industry all branded their names like this?

Toyota's automobile

GM's automobile

Volkswagen's automobile

Ford's automobile

Hyundai Kia's automobile

PSA's automobile

Honda's automobile

Nissan's automobile

Fiat's automobile

Suzuki's automobile

Renault's automobile

Daimler AG's automobile

Chana Automobile

BMW's automobile

Mazda's automobile

Chrysler's automobile

Mitsubishi's automobile


This is what the photography industry is like.

This is what I said perviously, if you have read the whole thread.

Again, guess I have to spell it out for you. "insert name here"'s photography, is the most over used thing in the photography industries. All I'm saying is use something else.

So let's say the photographer's name is Alex Jamerson and he wants to come up with a name for his photography business. He can be a sheep and call his photography business like everyone else. Alex Jamerson's photography. Or he can be creative with his name and call it something like "Alex Jamerson's Photos" or "Jamerson's Photos" or "Jamerson's images" or "The eye's of Alex Jamerson" or "Alex's vision" or "Through Alex's eyes". "Jamerson's production" or Jamerson's studio...etc. Or he can choose not to use his name.

You get my point(well I hope so).
My point was be original about your business's name. I did not say "don't use your name". What I said was don't be boring and just use "insert name here"'s photography.

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Are you suggesting videographers do not follow through on their obligations or jobs? Seriously, if you are going to throw out links to dictionaries, you may want to check one out yourself.

No, there are a lot more wedding photographers then there are wedding videographers, well at least here in Toronto it's like that.

So that means clients have more choices on picking wedding photographers than they do picking videographers.

"I know wedding videography doesn't have as much competitions as wedding photography does, that will explain why he is alway booked."

I fixed it for you, thanks I totally missed that.

AskedForIt wrote in post #11804680 (external link)
The OP is getting started. It is perfectly rational to identify what type of business or service they are providing.

I believe the title of the thread is called "i need help with the names" so I gave him my opinions and thoughts.

AskedForIt wrote in post #11804680 (external link)
Are you going to visit plumbing, catering, or other sites involving service and trade and tell them how foolish their business names are?

Sure, only if they asked for help on their business name.


I'm done with this thread.


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