-=5D CLASSIC admirers, assemble! (5)

sansational wrote in post #13339186
I shoot RAW only. Once I have it in LR3, and it uploads to my Flickr account does the file change from RAW to JPEG.

I'll try and get some blues in there, it was a overcast day. If you fancy, go ahead and edit it.

EDIT: I messed with it a little more in LR3.

Ah well, if it was overcast, well, not much you can do for the overcast!

But I believe I see some patches of blue, correct? It's those I was thinking about. I like to play with blue skies -- in the LR HSL toolkit, if for example you go to the Luminoscity panel and drag the Blue slider back, it can have a pretty dramatic effect, similar to what you get when using a polarizer!

Hmm idk. Feeling a bit unsure still. Although IQ is what I'm after and the full frame is enticing me I feel like the downgrade in technical features might kick me in the butt later. I rarely use live view to shoot but its a nice feature to have. So far the only lens I will have if I do the trade is the 50mm and my rokinon. Tough decision..

Reinheim wrote in post #13339032
I know what you are feeling re jpeg. I went quickly to RAW, but after reading folks like Will Crockett I took another look at JPEG (I still shoot mostly in RAW). His contention is that if you shoot the image right to start with, you won't waste time tinkering. True enough, I guess, but Will is a huge fan of using a seperate exposure meter, and watching a host of variables when you shoot a scene. I am too lazy or too careless so I fall back on RAW. I do not process hundreds of images so I need not worry about a "workflow" as such. I may try to get more attentive at shutter time for the new ear@! (INVALID EMAIL)

You know, I know nothing about Will Crockett. And, I have nothing against someone shooting jpegs for an intelligent reason.

But, when someone dishes out this idea that they don't shoot Raw because they "get it right in-camera", well, I think they are spreading a misconception. Unless they apply that to every shooting scenario then I think they are actually misleading their audience.

Yes, there are times/scenarios when I could shoot jpegs and be happy with the results. In fact, it's fun to me to shoot in scenes like that and just whip out quick no-bother conversions!

But when it comes to enhancing your photos, there is no contest!

And, I do so much shooting in less-than-ideal conditions, well, I would never go back to shooting jpegs. The years I shot jpegs, even though I got my share of good photos, I was also painfully aware of the limits of jpegs in the "digital darkroom". So, once I started with my first DSLR, it was Raw all the way.

And, the 5D Raw files are a real pleasure to work with!

BryantFC wrote in post #13339678
Hmm idk. Feeling a bit unsure still. Although IQ is what I'm after and the full frame is enticing me I feel like the downgrade in technical features might kick me in the butt later. I rarely use live view to shoot but its a nice feature to have. So far the only lens I will have if I do the trade is the 50mm and my rokinon. Tough decision..

Hmm -- I'd say you'd do well to save your money for some lens upgrades then, maybe consider adding the 5D instead of replacing the 60D!

I do love shooting with my 5D but I don't hesitate to grab a body which would be better for some things!

tonylong wrote in post #13339712
Hmm -- I'd say you'd do well to save your money for some lens upgrades then, maybe consider adding the 5D instead of replacing the 60D!

I do love shooting with my 5D but I don't hesitate to grab a body which would be better for some things!

True. I think I made my decision. I think i'm just going to take the plunge and do the trade. The photos i see on here i'm assuming are on impeccable glass so they've obviously won me over.

The 5D and 50mm f/1.8 makes some awesome images, if that helps any.

Reinheim wrote in post #13339032
just got my 5Dc and was wondering if any of you shoot JPEG with it? The RAW images are amazing but for some reason I'm not liking my jpegs. I'll admit, Im a noob with this camera and maybe I need to tweak settings

I know what you are feeling re jpeg. I went quickly to RAW, but after reading folks like Will Crockett I took another look at JPEG (I still shoot mostly in RAW). His contention is that if you shoot the image right to start with, you won't waste time tinkering. True enough, I guess, but Will is a huge fan of using a seperate exposure meter, and watching a host of variables when you shoot a scene. I am too lazy or too careless so I fall back on RAW. I do not process hundreds of images so I need not worry about a "workflow" as such. I may try to get more attentive at shutter time for the new year@!

Glad you got the 5D...Joe

RAW is non compressed file format. Suitable for editing.
JPEG1 is compressed file format, not suitable for editing.
I use RAW only, because only 10% of pictures comes right for me.
Exposure is variable parameter if you want to be creative outdoor. But even with external exposure meter, even in the studio with controlled light, RAW still makes sense, because often you need to work on the skin in PP.
5Dc is so forgiving in terms of RAW editing - switching to JPEG1 only is self-castration of your own creativity.

sansational wrote in post #13340237
The 5D and 50mm f/1.8 makes some awesome images, if that helps any.

Many if not any EF lens becomes 5Dc.

kf095 wrote in post #13340490
Many if not any EF lens becomes 5Dc.

What?

BryantFC was asking if he should trade his 60D for a 5D. I was just saying that one of his current lenses (if not all) would make great images on the 5Dc.

sansational wrote in post #13340509
What?

BryantFC was asking if he should trade his 60D for a 5D. I was just saying that one of his current lenses (if not all) would make great images on the 5Dc.

So what, I'm still saying 5Dc is working well with many lenses, way better.
My 28-75 2.8 and 135 2.8 MF seems to be focusing more accurate.
17-40 is waste on 1.6, so the Nifty Fifty is. IMO. But on 5Dc they are perfect.

Take it easy.

A couple from a recent engagement shoot. A little dark maybe, but it's what they were looking for so here goes.

BryantFC wrote in post #13339233
Question guys. I'm planning on trading my 60d for a 5dc. I shoot portrait and still life. Is it worth it for me? I'm just worried about having the older user interface and no live view..

I'd definitely use the 5D over 60D for those purposes. 5D still has GREAT IQ, low or high ISO. I am not a fan of Canon crop cameras at high ISO, sorry that's just me. (or maybe conditionally rephrase that to "I am not a fan of the work involved with Canon crop cameras at high ISO").


the only thing you might consider losing is that swivel LCD of the 60D - IMO the best reason to keep it over the 5D for your purposes, as it's really darn useful at times. I use swivel LCD all the time when shooting NEX 5N and when I owned Olympus E-5.

cputeq007 wrote in post #13341318
I'd definitely use the 5D over 60D for those purposes. 5D still has GREAT IQ, low or high ISO. I am not a fan of Canon crop cameras at high ISO, sorry that's just me. (or maybe conditionally rephrase that to "I am not a fan of the work involved with Canon crop cameras at high ISO").


the only thing you might consider losing is that swivel LCD of the 60D - IMO the best reason to keep it over the 5D for your purposes, as it's really darn useful at times. I use swivel LCD all the time when shooting NEX 5N and when I owned Olympus E-5.

Yeah, i LOVED the swivel screen. Came into play plenty of times when i was shooting a couple shows. Welp, i took the jump and i should be expecting it to come in friday. I'm excited

My take on 5Dc vs 60D is this:

5Dc does nicer images - I put this down in part to the noise being much more pleasing, more like grain than noise (although there doesn't appear to be an auto ISO option (should you wish to use that) - someone please correct me if I'm wrong on that), where as on the 60D I just don't like noise there at all.

Also the interface and screen are very basic - you will notice a BIG difference there, its a huge step back in technology, but oddly not as much of an issue once you get used to it - also no live view, which can come in handy for manual focusing - more so if you're running Magic Lantern's visual focusing aids on your 60D.

Full frame by itself brings complications, firstly everything will seem further away and you'll have to think more at first about which lens to go for, also and most importantly a load of your lenses may not be usable due to stupidly high vignetting, because they were not designed for FF, it looks like you'll be okay with the 50mm and 85, but if I recall Sigma's DC is for crop only, so that would have to go.

I also see you do video, the 5Dc doesn't have that feature - that came along with the MkII.

My advice would be keep the 60D for video and things where you need the speed and reach and get a 5Dc cheaply - I was lucky and found mine for £505, so there are bargains to be had. Also that will mean that you not only do you have a second body but also essentially have more lenses too, in that the 50 & 85 will sort of act like different lengths if that made sense.

Oh one last thing that no-one mentions, if you;re running Windows 7 64bit there are no drivers, so while you can switch it to Print mode to get the images off the camera you cannot tether it without jumping through all sorts of XP compatibility options - which is only available in Pro/Ultimate, so not on Home - very annoying indeed is a modern(ish) product.