Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Weddings & Other Family Events 
Thread started 06 Feb 2011 (Sunday) 09:17
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

First engagement shoot

 
Stamp
Senior Member
Avatar
680 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Sep 2010
Location: SO Indiana
     
Feb 06, 2011 09:17 |  #1

Hey everyone. Luckily I was able to accompany a local photographer to an engagement shoot, and I'm going to start assisting him at weddings. Real cool bunch of people, and I had a great time.... Would love to get some feedback from some of the pros who do this all the time.

1.

IMAGE: http://www.stampphotographics.com/photos/highres/MandA/IMG_2462.jpg

2.
IMAGE: http://www.stampphotographics.com/photos/highres/MandA/IMG_2482.jpg

3.
IMAGE: http://www.stampphotographics.com/photos/highres/MandA/IMG_2537.jpg

4.
IMAGE: http://www.stampphotographics.com/photos/highres/MandA/IMG_2547.jpg

5.
IMAGE: http://www.stampphotographics.com/photos/highres/MandA/IMG_2572.jpg

6.
IMAGE: http://www.stampphotographics.com/photos/highres/MandA/IMG_2614.jpg

7.
IMAGE: http://www.stampphotographics.com/photos/highres/MandA/IMG_2630.jpg

8.
IMAGE: http://www.stampphotographics.com/photos/highres/MandA/IMG_2672.jpg

1Ds Mark II, 5D Mark III, Canon AE1, Yashica Electro 35, Mamiya RB67, Yashica 124, some lenses with red rings on them, and some flashey things
- My Site (external link) -
- Like It On Facebook (external link) -

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DocMike
Senior Member
412 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Jan 2009
     
Feb 06, 2011 14:23 |  #2

I'm certainly no pro, so please take my comments with a grain of salt and hopefully as constructive criticism:

#1 Could be a very nice shot, but could use some work. Looks like a simple desaturation. You should look up "black and white conversion" online in order to work with the individual color channels and layering them together when converting to B&W, which will give your image much more impact.

#2 Color is lacking some color punch - might have been overexposed slightly, which washes out some of the colors. Also, focus on the eyes is imperative. Either the focus was missed or your DOF is too thin at f/2.8 to nail sharpness on the eyes. Also, they're not looking at the camera, which is ok, but they should be looking with some directionality (ie, like into the frame, or even out of the frame.) Their eyes appear to be oriented towards looking at something on the ground.

#3 I think has the nicest color balance and exposure of all the pictures. I love the way that they are posed, with him standing behind (as evident by their lower bodies) but with their upper bodies almost side-by-side. I think it may have been a little bit better if DOF was a little bit thinner. Off-camera flash on your two subjects would've been awesome, but I know that's not always possible. :)

#4 Nicely done - I'm sure a lot of people will like this. Personally, if I'm going to have couples walking away with back toward me (ie, toward the image viewer), they should be holding hands.

#5 His shadow across her face detracts from the image. Her facial expression does not display happiness or any other emotion - it looks like she was caught in between saying/doing something. Again, eyes are not super-sharp.

#6 Really great warmth and togetherness in this image. I would again suggest that you work on your B&W conversion, and you could have a really stellar image here. This one looks like an incomplete desaturation.

#7 I'm iffy on this one - some one complain about the hay/straw/weeds (whatever, I'm a city boy ;) ) in front of their faces, but I don't mind it. I think his eyes need to be sharper, though

#8. In this one, the branches are a little bit more distracting than they were in #7 because they are sharper than your subjects. A better idea would have been to move them away from the foliage, and focus on them, shooting through the foliage so that it's more out-of-focus. Also, I don't like that she's posing/smiling into the camera, and he's looking into the distance. It creates a disconnect between the two of them.

All in all, a pretty good first shoot, but there are recommendations I would make for future shots:
- Nail your focus on the eyes. They should be the sharpest part of any portrait
- Work on your white balance. I realize that some of these are "off" due to the time of day they were shot, making lighting really difficult
- Black and white conversions, if done properly, can really give your images some more impact
- In general, watch your compositional elements, particularly so that the couple is interacting (poses, glances, making sure they "match up," etc.)

I hope this commentary helps!


More equipment than ability: 40D
EF 17-35 f/2.8L | EF 50mm f/1.8 II | EF 100mm f/2 | EF 200 f/2.8L II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SuzyView
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
32,094 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 129
Joined Oct 2005
Location: Northern VA
     
Feb 06, 2011 16:32 |  #3

I like #'s 2 & 6. I do a fair share of portraits and I think the setting is almost as important as the gear you use. #2 works for me because the couple, their expressions, the way you used the background to focus on them is just wonderful. The last few shots the branches just get in the way. It distracts from the couple and makes their faces the background, not the subject. Also, give #2 some more contrast and saturate it some more. Sharpen it, if that helps. You can really make that image sing.

Keep at it. I have a few spots I do couples shots that are wonderful. This time of year is tough. It's the nature of the beast. See if you can find some old abandoned barns or rail stations. Works great around here in VA.


Suzie - Still Speaking Canonese!
RF6 Mii, 5DIV, SONY a7iii, 7D2, G12, 6 L's & 2 Primes, 25 bags.
My children and grandchildren are the reason, but it's the passion that drives me to get the perfect image of everything.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Hotsauce
Member
Avatar
151 posts
Joined Jan 2008
Location: Ottawa, On, Canada
     
Feb 06, 2011 16:35 |  #4

2 and 8 are definitely flat and need some contrast. I like 6 but it also could use some pop in the blacks.


Dave
Flickr (external link)
Blog (external link)
MM (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Stamp
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
680 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Sep 2010
Location: SO Indiana
     
Feb 07, 2011 07:26 |  #5

DocMike wrote in post #11789028 (external link)
I'm certainly no pro, so please take my comments with a grain of salt and hopefully as constructive criticism:

#1 Could be a very nice shot, but could use some work. Looks like a simple desaturation. You should look up "black and white conversion" online in order to work with the individual color channels and layering them together when converting to B&W, which will give your image much more impact.

#2 Color is lacking some color punch - might have been overexposed slightly, which washes out some of the colors. Also, focus on the eyes is imperative. Either the focus was missed or your DOF is too thin at f/2.8 to nail sharpness on the eyes. Also, they're not looking at the camera, which is ok, but they should be looking with some directionality (ie, like into the frame, or even out of the frame.) Their eyes appear to be oriented towards looking at something on the ground.

#3 I think has the nicest color balance and exposure of all the pictures. I love the way that they are posed, with him standing behind (as evident by their lower bodies) but with their upper bodies almost side-by-side. I think it may have been a little bit better if DOF was a little bit thinner. Off-camera flash on your two subjects would've been awesome, but I know that's not always possible. :)

#4 Nicely done - I'm sure a lot of people will like this. Personally, if I'm going to have couples walking away with back toward me (ie, toward the image viewer), they should be holding hands.

#5 His shadow across her face detracts from the image. Her facial expression does not display happiness or any other emotion - it looks like she was caught in between saying/doing something. Again, eyes are not super-sharp.

#6 Really great warmth and togetherness in this image. I would again suggest that you work on your B&W conversion, and you could have a really stellar image here. This one looks like an incomplete desaturation.

#7 I'm iffy on this one - some one complain about the hay/straw/weeds (whatever, I'm a city boy ;) ) in front of their faces, but I don't mind it. I think his eyes need to be sharper, though

#8. In this one, the branches are a little bit more distracting than they were in #7 because they are sharper than your subjects. A better idea would have been to move them away from the foliage, and focus on them, shooting through the foliage so that it's more out-of-focus. Also, I don't like that she's posing/smiling into the camera, and he's looking into the distance. It creates a disconnect between the two of them.

All in all, a pretty good first shoot, but there are recommendations I would make for future shots:
- Nail your focus on the eyes. They should be the sharpest part of any portrait
- Work on your white balance. I realize that some of these are "off" due to the time of day they were shot, making lighting really difficult
- Black and white conversions, if done properly, can really give your images some more impact
- In general, watch your compositional elements, particularly so that the couple is interacting (poses, glances, making sure they "match up," etc.)

I hope this commentary helps!

Wow, thanks for that Mike. I'm definitely going to look into the B&W conversion, because you're right, it's just a simple de-saturation above. I didn't want to interact with the couple too much, because like I said, I was accompanying another photographer, and he was the main dude, so I was just working with what I could get. Thanks for taking the time for C&C on them!


1Ds Mark II, 5D Mark III, Canon AE1, Yashica Electro 35, Mamiya RB67, Yashica 124, some lenses with red rings on them, and some flashey things
- My Site (external link) -
- Like It On Facebook (external link) -

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Stamp
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
680 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Sep 2010
Location: SO Indiana
     
Feb 07, 2011 07:29 |  #6

SuzyView wrote in post #11789820 (external link)
I like #'s 2 & 6. I do a fair share of portraits and I think the setting is almost as important as the gear you use. #2 works for me because the couple, their expressions, the way you used the background to focus on them is just wonderful. The last few shots the branches just get in the way. It distracts from the couple and makes their faces the background, not the subject. Also, give #2 some more contrast and saturate it some more. Sharpen it, if that helps. You can really make that image sing.

Keep at it. I have a few spots I do couples shots that are wonderful. This time of year is tough. It's the nature of the beast. See if you can find some old abandoned barns or rail stations. Works great around here in VA.

Hotsauce wrote in post #11789842 (external link)
2 and 8 are definitely flat and need some contrast. I like 6 but it also could use some pop in the blacks.


Thanks, Suzy and Hotsauce.... I'm definitely going to get back in lightroom and look into what you've mentioned. I just recently started shooting ETTR (Exposure to the right), so all of them needed some exposure correction, saturation, and contrast adjustment, but I'm still working with them to get them just right.


1Ds Mark II, 5D Mark III, Canon AE1, Yashica Electro 35, Mamiya RB67, Yashica 124, some lenses with red rings on them, and some flashey things
- My Site (external link) -
- Like It On Facebook (external link) -

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

2,041 views & 0 likes for this thread, 4 members have posted to it.
First engagement shoot
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Weddings & Other Family Events 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
1585 guests, 183 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.