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With the t3i, what's the point of the 60D?!

 
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Feb 07, 2011 09:12 |  #31

Some are just more picky than others and I guess is all a matter of preference, taste, style, etc. I've been shooting with a T2i for a year already, one of the best DSLRs I've had as far as IQ is concern, IQ is everything for me, small size is very convenient, I shoot mostly portraits and landscape/wildlife, eventually I will buy another body, change is inevitable with technology. Is always going to get better, the 60D wasn't available when I bought my T2i if not I would have bought it. I think is the perfect in between camera for someone like me, I don't care for bigger or heavier bodies, if I were buying a new body it would be the 60D for what I do.

The real issue I see here is that for someone like me, the T3i or 60D makes no sense as far as calling it an upgrade, to me is not, I don't need anything the 60D has to offer and even less the T3i. I already have a second body but if I were to upgrade my second body I would then buy a 60D and keep my T2i as my backup body. The way I see it, I will wait for the next xxD body upgrade, meanwhile I'll keep "fine-tuning" my lens collection.

If you're in the market for a new DSLR then the T3i or even the 1100D makes perfect sense, I just don't see much room for the T1i or the 1000D anymore.


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Feb 07, 2011 09:15 as a reply to  @ post 11793488 |  #32

hollis_f wrote in post #11793299 (external link)
Er, why?

Not immediately, obviously. But I wont be shooting 5DII/7D until the end of time.

The swivel screen, to me, is adding points of failure that are unnecessary. A double axis hinge, additional ribbon cables. I work with my equipment, so extra points of failure arent exactly ideal.

I like to think that the Mag chassis wont support the swivel screen hinge, though. Possibly why they went back to polymer in the 60D.

I dont want to switch systems. Selling everything, rebuying everything, getting comfortable with the new system, finding its quirks, etc. I wouldnt want to go to an event with a completely new system..and I cant exactly afford to buy the entire system in a different brand before mine sells..

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Everyone listen to the Drama Queen... :rolleyes:

Way to add to the conversation bud.


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Feb 07, 2011 09:16 |  #33

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... I kept hitting the LiveView button instead of AE lock and had a harder time manually selecting AF points.

That's a reach for me to understand, but I do hit it when I'm going for the Av button*. For that reason, dual controls are the biggest lure of the xxD or xD in my opinion.

IMHO, if you never plan on moving on from the kit lens and getting heavier L glass, a XXXD body will suffice. If you ever plan on getting bigger lenses and/or shooting in situations where you need to set multiple controls quickly, you are far better off with a XD or XXD body.

Can't see how my 70-200 would be easier to handle with a larger/heavier body, but maybe I can borrow a friend's 5Dii for a test. Agree on the controls, though.

EDIT: I meant the Av selector, I originally wrote AE button.


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Feb 07, 2011 09:26 |  #34

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You can simply let the articulating screen sit on the back of the camera, like a fixed one, if you don't want to swivel it. Then you still have it, should you ever want it.

You also lose the buttons on the side of the left side of the body.

And the screen is exposed instead of being hidden behind a (relatively) thick piece of clear plastic.


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Feb 07, 2011 09:27 |  #35

more fail from Canon.


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Feb 07, 2011 09:28 |  #36

KhanhD wrote in post #11793829 (external link)
You also lose the buttons on the side of the left side of the body.

And the screen is exposed instead of being hidden behind a (relatively) thick piece of clear plastic.

Is it really, or is there a plastic cover over that LCD? I haven't seen one in person, but I cannot believe that the LCD is just a straight LCD panel with the typical plastic antiglare sheets over it. I expect there is a cover, and that is where the seal occurs from exterior to the internal LCD chassis.


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Feb 07, 2011 09:28 |  #37

KhanhD wrote in post #11793771 (external link)
I like to think that the Mag chassis wont support the swivel screen hinge, though.

You like to think that, do you? And your reasoning?


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Feb 07, 2011 09:33 |  #38

all i'm hoping for is for the T2i's price to drop. these little in-between cameras are stupid. hype/anticipation for both the 60D and the 600D werent/arent looking too good. it's just canon's way of releasing a new camera just because it's time to release a new camera.

T2i or 7D. take your pick. who needs a 600D or a 60D




  
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Feb 07, 2011 09:35 |  #39

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I'm never getting another DSLR without a Pentaprism and two control dials, the cameras are just superficially alike when you look at the specs. Although there where more of a difference with the old xxD bodies and rebels.

+1 on this.

The different control layout is enough for me to justify the difference in cost. I use both control wheels all the time during my shooting.


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Feb 07, 2011 09:36 |  #40

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Is it really, or is there a plastic cover over that LCD? I haven't seen one in person, but I cannot believe that the LCD is just a straight LCD panel with the typical plastic antiglare sheets over it. I expect there is a cover, and that is where the seal occurs from exterior to the internal LCD chassis.

I only had limited usage with a 60D (read: 5 minutes) when it came out so I may be mistaken, but Im pretty sure there was no plastic cover.

I know on my Canon and Sony camcorders its straight LCD.

And Ive seen a few LCDs being inadvertently broken off..dangling by the ribbons. :mad:

hollis_f wrote in post #11793845 (external link)
You like to think that, do you? And your reasoning?

Not sure I have logic behind that to be honest besides from the switch to the Polymer body on the 60D.


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Feb 07, 2011 09:37 |  #41

KhanhD wrote in post #11793829 (external link)
You also lose the buttons on the side of the left side of the body.

Only on the T3. The T3i keeps them, but you do lose the face detect sensor for the LCD. Instead, there's a new button on top for turning it on and off.


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Feb 07, 2011 09:39 |  #42

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all i'm hoping for is for the T2i's price to drop. these little in-between cameras are stupid. hype/anticipation for both the 60D and the 600D werent/arent looking too good. it's just canon's way of releasing a new camera just because it's time to release a new camera.

T2i or 7D. take your pick. who needs a 600D or a 60D

Size and ergos and budget come into play too. There are many that may not like the size of the Rebel, but don't want to spend the money on a larger heavier body like the 7D, so the 60D fits that gap.

People get so wrapped up in IQ or feature sets, and forget about weight, size, and price.

Factors that go into a purchase:
1) Price of body
2) Featureset of body
3) Size of body
4) Ease of use of body
5) Resolution and ISO and IQ
6) Transitional concerns from old to new
7) Gear lust/desire for newer equipment
8) Marketing and peer pressure

I am probably missing others too, these come to mind immediately.


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Feb 07, 2011 09:45 |  #43

AntonLargiader wrote in post #11793898 (external link)
Only on the T3. The T3i keeps them, but you do lose the face detect sensor for the LCD. Instead, there's a new button on top for turning it on and off.

600D:

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60D:
IMAGE: http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS60D/images/allroundview-001.jpg

50D:
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I guess the Txi and the xxD never had the buttons on the left side of the body anyway..but look at the 7D
IMAGE: http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS7D/Images/allroundview-001.jpg

Those buttons are where the hinge needs to be..meaning they wont be there anymore..

EDIT: The buttons on the left on the 7D are on the bottom of the 50D..and you lose those on the 60D.

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Feb 07, 2011 09:50 |  #44

I'm confused about what Canon expects to get out of the T3 and T3i.


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Feb 07, 2011 09:56 |  #45

to regain market shear in the entry level, as sony dumped a bunch of entry level onto the market last year. You have the a230, a290, a330, a380, and a390 available in the entry level. And the 2 SLT with is a mix of entry and mid. That took a bit of a bit from canon. Canon answer back with super lineup. T3 targets the a290 and a230 market very well with more features then they do.

It seems funny to say sony is canon's revival in the entry dslr market, not nikon.


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