As a B&W print is composed of different shades of black>gray>white, why are colored inks used in the printing process?
Feb 09, 2011 07:12 | #1 As a B&W print is composed of different shades of black>gray>white, why are colored inks used in the printing process? The things you do for yourself die with you, the things you do for others live forever.
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butugly Senior Member 621 posts Joined Mar 2006 Location: chelmsford,essex.UK More info | Feb 09, 2011 07:14 | #2 need something to mix with the black to get all them shades,unless you have a printer with white ink
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tzalman Fatal attraction. 13,497 posts Likes: 213 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Gesher Haziv, Israel More info | Feb 09, 2011 07:20 | #3 Equal amounts of cyan, magenta and yellow make grey. Black is mixed in to make the grey darker. Elie / אלי
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BestVisuals Senior Member 763 posts Joined Apr 2007 More info | I've seen cheap printers not have a black cartridge and use equal amounts of colored ink to produce black/grey, but I assume that's not what you're talking about. Canon 5D MK II, 24-105 L, Sigma 16mm fisheye
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ChasP505 "brain damaged old guy" 5,566 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2006 Location: New Mexico, USA More info | And to smooth out gradients and transitions. Chas P
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And here I was thinking that it might be profit driven...Nah. The things you do for yourself die with you, the things you do for others live forever.
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kirkt Cream of the Crop More info | Feb 09, 2011 20:49 | #7 It would depend upon the printing process used, I suppose. Kirk
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JEC Senior Member 334 posts Joined Aug 2007 Location: Centerville, Ohio More info | Feb 09, 2011 21:09 | #8 BestVisuals wrote in post #11807574 I've seen cheap printers not have a black cartridge and use equal amounts of colored ink to produce black/grey, but I assume that's not what you're talking about. In a perfect printing world, and a pure b/w image, no colors other than black would be used. And this is the reason that I prefer the Canon iPF series of printers.
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boerewors Goldmember 1,948 posts Likes: 4 Joined Sep 2009 Location: South African living in Indonesia More info | Feb 10, 2011 01:23 | #9 Using black only ink wont get you the 256 shades needed between its self and the white of the paper. a printer with black only ink can only print in black. It can make a posterised grey by spreading the dots further apart to allow more of the white from the paper to show between but thats not going to look too professional is it. Black ink is intended to be used for text only. The most important piece of gear you own, resides in your head and its called your brain.
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ChasP505 "brain damaged old guy" 5,566 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2006 Location: New Mexico, USA More info | Feb 10, 2011 13:19 | #10 JEC wrote in post #11812359 Black, matte black, gray, and photo gray. Same setup in my old HP. But color inks are still used. Are you certain the Canons are not using any color inks? Prints don't fade to a strange hue of red or green after hanging on a wall in the sunlight after a year or two. UV rays are eventually harsh on B/W prints made from mixed colors. Fading is another issue, but this is also why I love my HP 8750. I only print B&W to HP's own Premium Plus Photo Paper, a very high quality swellable type paper for dye inks. The paper encapsulates the inks and renders them more stable and highly resistant to fading. Tests from Wilhelm and Ardenberg prove this out. Chas P
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butugly Senior Member 621 posts Joined Mar 2006 Location: chelmsford,essex.UK More info | Feb 10, 2011 13:32 | #11 Boerewors you'll have to take a look at the epson WT7900,hey it's why epson are the leaders in print technology.
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JEC Senior Member 334 posts Joined Aug 2007 Location: Centerville, Ohio More info | Feb 10, 2011 18:48 | #12 ChasP505 wrote in post #11816455 Same setup in my old HP. But color inks are still used. Are you certain the Canons are not using any color inks? Fading is another issue, but this is also why I love my HP 8750. I only print B&W to HP's own Premium Plus Photo Paper, a very high quality swellable type paper for dye inks. The paper encapsulates the inks and renders them more stable and highly resistant to fading. Tests from Wilhelm and Ardenberg prove this out. Of course, even a print that appears to be Black and White to the human eye, may not actually be just that. I use these.
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ChasP505 "brain damaged old guy" 5,566 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2006 Location: New Mexico, USA More info | Very cool equipment. Photography is NOT all about baby portraits and glamour shots. (Though I appreciate a good glamour shot!) Chas P
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