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Feb 09, 2011 21:51 |  #1

just need a opinion i am thinking about getting these in order what do you think (with the exception of 430exii)
I have a 7d and 28-135 will sell that once i get a 24-105

1. Canon 35 f/1.4L http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …2_Wide_Angle_EF​_35mm.html (external link)
2. Canon 24-105 f/4L IS http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …24_105mm_f_4L_I​S_USM.html (external link)
3. Canon 50 f/1.2L http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ormal_EF_50mm_f​_1_2L.html (external link)
4. Canon 17-40 f/4L http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_EF_17_40mm_f_4​L_USM.html (external link)
5. Canon 135 f/2L http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …hoto_EF_135mm_f​_2_0L.html (external link)
6. Canon 300 f/4L IS http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …hoto_EF_300mm_f​_4_0L.html (external link)
7. Canon 430EX II http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …30EX_II_Speedli​te_TTL.htm (external link)
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Feb 09, 2011 21:57 |  #2

The order seems fine to me assuming you get the whole lot, I'm a little curious as to why you'd want a 17-40mm versus the 10-22mm since you're on crop unless you're trying to go for all weather sealed lenses or planning on using full frame sometime in the next 2-3 years. Same with choosing the 24-105mm versus the 15-85mm. Otherwise the only things I'd consider doing different is dropping the 300mm and getting a 2x TC Mk III instead to not only save money but weight as well, though you would lose IS. I'd also possibly swap out the Canon 50L for the Sigma 50mm as the IQ is equal if not better.




  
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Feb 09, 2011 22:10 |  #3

Velorium wrote in post #11812648 (external link)
I'm a little curious as to why you'd want a 17-40mm versus the 10-22mm since you're on crop

I sense a pattern in the Lenses:lol:

I agree with what velorium said. That line up would do well for you, but if you are willing to give up the Ls and weather sealing, you could save a ton of money while maintaining IQ.

Sigma 30 instead of Canon 35L
15-85 or 17-55 instead of 24-105
Canon 10-22, Tokina 8-16, or Sigma 8-16 instead of 17-40
Sigma 50 instead of Canon 50L

Other things to consider...
I like the 85mm FL on a crop more than 135 (canon 85 1.8 or Sigma 85 1.4)
I would rather have some flexibility on the long end. Use all that money you just saved and get the Canon 70-200 2.8 IS II and a 1.4x tc. instead of the 300


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Feb 09, 2011 22:15 |  #4

What do I think? I say get them all they are fine lenses! This is the order which I got mine when I only had my 7D:
135L
24-70L
17-40L
70-200L

sometimes I wish I had more reach though.


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Feb 09, 2011 22:15 |  #5

Why not just list all the Canon lenses available. I do not see the point ot this. How many lenses are you going to buy a month?


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Feb 09, 2011 23:21 |  #6

laselects06 wrote in post #11812620 (external link)
just need a opinion i am thinking about getting these in order what do you think (with the exception of 430exii)
I have a 7d and 28-135 will sell that once i get a 24-105

1. Canon 35 f/1.4L http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …2_Wide_Angle_EF​_35mm.html (external link)
2. Canon 24-105 f/4L IS http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …24_105mm_f_4L_I​S_USM.html (external link)
3. Canon 50 f/1.2L http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ormal_EF_50mm_f​_1_2L.html (external link)
4. Canon 17-40 f/4L http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_EF_17_40mm_f_4​L_USM.html (external link)
5. Canon 135 f/2L http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …hoto_EF_135mm_f​_2_0L.html (external link)
6. Canon 300 f/4L IS http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …hoto_EF_300mm_f​_4_0L.html (external link)
7. Canon 430EX II http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …30EX_II_Speedli​te_TTL.htm (external link)
8. BG-E7 Battery grip http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …1_BG_E7_Battery​_Grip.html (external link)

It might be helpful if you indicated what you like to shoot, otherwise I am not really sure what kind of opinion anyone can offer...




  
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Feb 11, 2011 18:35 |  #7

bpark42 wrote in post #11813164 (external link)
It might be helpful if you indicated what you like to shoot, otherwise I am not really sure what kind of opinion anyone can offer...

Ya i see what your saying i just got the 24-105 it is really great. i like shooting wildlife, landscapes and surf, sometimes ice hockey. i plan on getting at least 2 more lens by the end of 2011. Thank you




  
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Feb 11, 2011 18:42 |  #8

laselects06 wrote in post #11825148 (external link)
Ya i see what your saying i just got the 24-105 it is really great. i like shooting wildlife, landscapes and surf, sometimes ice hockey. i plan on getting at least 2 more lens by the end of 2011. Thank you

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Feb 11, 2011 18:44 |  #9

Flash and battery grip would be my first choice.

I would get EF-s lenses over several of these L choices.


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Feb 11, 2011 19:35 |  #10

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for surf 600 mm and upbw!

I wish i had the money =(




  
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Feb 11, 2011 20:05 |  #11

laselects06 wrote in post #11825148 (external link)
i like shooting wildlife, landscapes and surf, sometimes ice hockey.

Choosing lenses only from your list:
wildlife & surf - 300/4 IS
landscapes - 17-40
hockey - 135

However, there are other lenses in similar price ranges that may be more suitable.

examples:
wildlife & surf - 100-400 IS or 400/5.6
landscapes - 10-22 or 17-55 IS or ... (lots of other high-quality options)
hockey - not a sport I have ever shot, but maybe the 85/1.8 or 100/2 to save a few bucks that can go toward one of the other categories

Also, don't get caught up in L-fever. Just because a lens is an "L" doesn't automatically mean it's the best choice for your needs. For landscapes especially, I think there are better choices than the 17-40




  
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Feb 11, 2011 23:28 |  #12

I sense a 12-step program might be needed here. That's lookin' like a case of L-coholism. ;)

I know I have a pretty long lens list, but it's been over ten years in the making, I don't look specifically for L's or not, and nearly every lens was bought because a project or job required it. I think only two or three were just bought on a whim or because a deal too good to pass up wandered by (and the most recent one of those only set me back $65).

How much do you want for your 28-135? Will it come with the hood?

"Landscapes and surf" as in seascapes, or "landscapes and surfing"? I think folks are assuming the latter. I'm going to assume "seascapes" instead. My favorite landscape and seascape lens on a crop sensor camera is Tokina 12-24/4. Great value... still only $500 new, but used ones can be found for $400 or a little less. 17mm is not wide enough for this sort of thing, on a crop sensor camera. The Tokina is as well built as the Canon 17-40/4L... and better built, equal in IQ and $350 cheaper than the EF-S 10-22mm. You'll need to take a couple steps backwards to make up for the difference between 10mm and 12mm wide, though.

Yes, the 300/4 IS is quite good, even though it's one of Canon's older lens designs now. I use one handheld or on a monopod a lot. It's not quite equal to the 300/2.8 IS, but hey, it's 1/4 the price!

For wildlife, depending upon what size wildlife and how approachable they are, you might also want to get a 1.4X teleconverter to use with the 300/4.

I'd go with the Sigma 50/1.4 or Canon 50/1.4 over the 50/1.2L. They are quite capable... The f1.2 lens is just a whole lot more expensive, heavier, slower focusing. Sure, big glass like that is very cool... I love lenses like that on my collection shelf... But you can get tired of carrying it around.

I have the 135/2... it's a great lens. I mostly use it on full frame, though. But I don't shoot hockey. I do shoot other indoor sports and by far my main user lens for that sort of thing is 70-200/2.8 IS. It's a real workhorse. It's also a lot bigger and heavier than the 135/2, though.

35/1.4L is on my short list of lenses, too... for use on full frame. On crop I use 28/1.8 and 20/2.8, and am happy with those.

430EX.... sure, everyone should have an accessory flash. They are so much better than the wimpy redeye producers built into the camera. I recommend a simple flash bracket and off camera shoe cord, too. This moves the flash further from the lens axis, reducing chance of redeye even more and throws shadows down behind the subject better.

If you plan to use the flash when shooting wildlife, you'll want some sort of flash extender, too.

BG-E7, definitely, I wouldn't want to use the cameras without a vertical grip.


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Feb 11, 2011 23:41 |  #13

In musical circles I once heard the saying, "a lot of people OWN trumpets, but few who own trumpets are real trumpet players."

Unless you are fantastically rich AND talented at this point in your life, I'd recommend (as another did) in avoiding the most pricey "L" glass in the Canon line up and get the really good stuff by Canon in those focal lengths that is nearly as good but a LOT less money. In skilled hands these lenses can produce memorable work that far eclipses the "L" lenses in the hands of those with lesser experience and talent.

Canon lenses hold their value quite well, and with these fine lenses you can develop your talent to the point where you can see if you truly need the L lenses to make a living with them.

Frankly . . . many own expensive cameras and stuff, but relatively few owners are great photographers. Then again . . . if you are filthy rich and money is no object, go for it. The economy needs a boost!

In any event, good luck on your endeavors!




  
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Feb 12, 2011 00:07 |  #14

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I sense a 12-step program might be needed here. That's lookin' like a case of L-coholism. ;)

I know I have a pretty long lens list, but it's been over ten years in the making, I don't look specifically for L's or not, and nearly every lens was bought because a project or job required it. I think only two or three were just bought on a whim or because a deal too good to pass up wandered by (and the most recent one of those only set me back $65).

How much do you want for your 28-135? Will it come with the hood?

"Landscapes and surf" as in seascapes, or "landscapes and surfing"? I think folks are assuming the latter. I'm going to assume "seascapes" instead. My favorite landscape and seascape lens on a crop sensor camera is Tokina 12-24/4. Great value... still only $500 new, but used ones can be found for $400 or a little less. 17mm is not wide enough for this sort of thing, on a crop sensor camera. The Tokina is as well built as the Canon 17-40/4L... and better built, equal in IQ and $350 cheaper than the EF-S 10-22mm. You'll need to take a couple steps backwards to make up for the difference between 10mm and 12mm wide, though.

Yes, the 300/4 IS is quite good, even though it's one of Canon's older lens designs now. I use one handheld or on a monopod a lot. It's not quite equal to the 300/2.8 IS, but hey, it's 1/4 the price!

For wildlife, depending upon what size wildlife and how approachable they are, you might also want to get a 1.4X teleconverter to use with the 300/4.

I'd go with the Sigma 50/1.4 or Canon 50/1.4 over the 50/1.2L. They are quite capable... The f1.2 lens is just a whole lot more expensive, heavier, slower focusing. Sure, big glass like that is very cool... I love lenses like that on my collection shelf... But you can get tired of carrying it around.

I have the 135/2... it's a great lens. I mostly use it on full frame, though. But I don't shoot hockey. I do shoot other indoor sports and by far my main user lens for that sort of thing is 70-200/2.8 IS. It's a real workhorse. It's also a lot bigger and heavier than the 135/2, though.

35/1.4L is on my short list of lenses, too... for use on full frame. On crop I use 28/1.8 and 20/2.8, and am happy with those.

430EX.... sure, everyone should have an accessory flash. They are so much better than the wimpy redeye producers built into the camera. I recommend a simple flash bracket and off camera shoe cord, too. This moves the flash further from the lens axis, reducing chance of redeye even more and throws shadows down behind the subject better.

If you plan to use the flash when shooting wildlife, you'll want some sort of flash extender, too.

BG-E7, definitely, I wouldn't want to use the cameras without a vertical grip.

Thanks this really informative I'll look back at this thanks for writing this all out!




  
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